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4/26/2008 1:31:36 PM EDT
I was just wondering how many NFA items are on the registry. And if it is broken down in classification. SRB, SBS, MGs, Silencers, AOW, DD. Just thought it would be neet to know.

Thanks
4/26/2008 9:36:02 PM EDT
[#1]
not enough or too many depending on how you look at...
4/27/2008 12:05:28 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
not enough or too many depending on how you look at...


4/27/2008 11:22:41 AM EDT
[#3]
Um, Google is your friend?

www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e0706/back.htm

Interesting note: Only 9 examiners working on NFA as of March 2007, and they processed roughly 402,151 applications in 2006.  That's ~122 forms per examiner per day (7 day week).
4/27/2008 9:01:14 PM EDT
[#4]
My guess is that of the 402k forms, a large number were Form 3s and 5s.  Which would be a much faster process.  I would guess its a matter of verifiying the FFL/SOT of the F3s and then sending them on.  Same with the Form 5s.  So doing a fast 40 in a hour wouldnt be too outlandish.  The form 4s seem to be held up by the FBI getting the fingerprints checked out.  

In any case, 402k forms by 9 workers in a gov agency.... that would be amazing or a typo.  
4/27/2008 11:23:27 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Um, Google is your friend?

www.usdoj.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e0706/back.htm

Interesting note: Only 9 examiners working on NFA as of March 2007, and they processed roughly 402,151 applications in 2006.  That's ~122 forms per examiner per day (7 day week).


What would be considered an "unknown" device or weapon? Not an AOW.
4/28/2008 1:00:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Unknown category would denote items in the registry that they have no idea what it is when they moved from paper records to electronic database.  Usually the forms contain so little information to accurately identify.
4/29/2008 6:31:10 AM EDT
[#7]
Okay, maybe I am the only person that missed this report, but has anyone read DOJ's results on the next page?

Click Here for Report

Their findings are scary to say the least!


In 2006, ATF conducted 7,292 compliance inspections from which it issued 12,176 violations.





An average of 1.7 violations per inspection?  Are you kidding me?  What do they consider a violation?  Not having toilet paper in the public restroom?
4/29/2008 7:54:54 AM EDT
[#8]
Well according to the pie chart it looks like there are 1,909,786 registered NFA items.


AOW 2.5%  = 47,669
SBR 1.8% = 34,322
SBS 5.0% = 95,339
Silencers 7.9% = 150,636
MGs 20.5% = 390,891
DD 62.2% = 1,186,020

Thanks for the info.

Now I wonder how many of those MGs are transferable to individuals?
4/29/2008 8:33:05 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Well according to the pie chart it looks like there are 1,909,786 registered NFA items.


AOW 2.5%  = 47,669
SBR 1.8% = 34,322
SBS 5.0% = 95,339
Silencers 7.9% = 150,636
MGs 20.5% = 390,891
DD 62.2% = 1,186,020

Thanks for the info.

Now I wonder how many of those MGs are transferable to individuals?



destructive devices make up 62% of everything in the NFARTR!!?? i never would have guessed that.


4/29/2008 8:40:38 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Well according to the pie chart it looks like there are 1,909,786 registered NFA items.


AOW 2.5%  = 47,669
SBR 1.8% = 34,322
SBS 5.0% = 95,339
Silencers 7.9% = 150,636
MGs 20.5% = 390,891
DD 62.2% = 1,186,020

Thanks for the info.

Now I wonder how many of those MGs are transferable to individuals?


The number that I've heard thrown around in the past is somehwere aroune 100K ....
4/29/2008 8:41:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Based on numbers I've seen from various sources, I'd guess 100,000 - 150,000 transferable MG's.  But none of them are reliable sources from dot gov so it's solely a guess of mine.

If we applied the same argument Gura had that 2A protects arms in "common" use today, one could argue mortars, grenades, and launchers are more protected than machine guns.  Where's my semi Mk19 with HE rounds for the 600 yard range?
4/29/2008 9:55:11 AM EDT
[#12]


destructive devices make up 62% of everything in the NFARTR!!?? i never would have guessed that.


From the report...


Of the 1,186,138 destructive devices in the NFRTR, 77.4 percent (918,517) are flash bang grenades. The category “unknown” includes older weapons or devices registered with ATF before the NFRTR was automated that are not clearly identified or do not fit in any other category of weapon.
4/29/2008 9:58:55 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

destructive devices make up 62% of everything in the NFARTR!!?? i never would have guessed that.


Remember that flash-bangs are DD's.  I'd guess that much of that 62% is taken up by all the swat-team flash-bangs.

edit:  too slow
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