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11/30/2008 7:56:05 AM EDT
I bought a magazine that is full of German ammo dated 1938 at a flea market this morning and need help identifying what I have here.

I'm am assuming the magazine is German but I don't know what it is. It is loaded with German ammo (see pics below) that is rimmed so I don't know if the ammo goes with the magazine. I can't find a marking anywhere on the magazine so I really am wondering what it is.

Can anyone help me out here? I'm not an expert on German ammo or mags from Germany used in WWII.

Thank you.










AR15 30 round mag on left for size.
11/30/2008 8:15:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Can you use a pair of calipers to measure the diameter of the bullet just above the case neck?  That would be a big help.




That magazine is perfect!  Ammo looks great too.  Can I ask what you paid for it?
11/30/2008 8:28:01 AM EDT
[#2]
The diameter is .326.

11/30/2008 8:46:04 AM EDT
[#3]
You may have stumbled onto something here....

These are not standard German rifle cartridges(7.92x57mm). These are not standard German intermediate cartridges(7.92x33mm). These are not standard German pistol cartridges(9x19mm).

The magazine is not familiar either. Not an FG42 magazine... Not an StG44 magazine.

Maybe something experimental for the StG45?


Whatever it is... it is not common. It is not ordinary. Depending on what you paid... you may have hit a gold mine here.
11/30/2008 8:48:55 AM EDT
[#4]
The ammo is 8X56R Steyr (Austrian).




At the 12 o'clock position the Roman numeral indicates the month of manufacture.
'I' would be January. The two headed eagle at the 6 o'clock position was used up until 1938 (Munitionsfabrik Wollersdorf) and in 1938 they started using the German eagle. The 9 and 3 o'clock position shows the year of
manufacture.



The mag may be for a Steyr-Solothurn S2-100 light machine gun.
11/30/2008 8:52:44 AM EDT
[#5]
....I didn't even think about it being Austrian....

Good call.
11/30/2008 9:11:20 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
The ammo is 8X56R Steyr (Austrian).

At the 12 o'clock position the Roman numeral indicates the month of manufacture.'I' would be January. The two headed eagle at the 6 o'clock position was used up until 1938 (Munitionsfabrik Wollersdorf) and in 1938 they started using the German eagle. The 9 and 3 o'clock position shows the year ofmanufacture.

The mag may be for a Steyr-Solothurn S2-100 light machine gun.



As I already stated, this is a subject that I know very little about.

I looked at a picture of a Steyr-Solothurn S2-100, the mag in it looks to be rectangular at the bottom, this one has a taper to it, wider at the rear than the front. I can't find a better picture to compare it to.

I removed the ammo. There are 9 marked with the double headed eagle and 5 marked with the Nazi eagle.

Any value to this stuff?  I paid $30 for the mag and ammo. I would have tried to get a better price but the old guy was a grumpy one and a guy next to me was itching for me to put it down and walk away so I bought it.
11/30/2008 10:02:02 AM EDT
[#7]
The mag is a Brno LMG Mag ( Think orig Czech Bren Gun ) model VZ-33 303 brit or VZ-52 7.62x54R.

Ammo is common German marked WW2 8x56R someone stuck it in mag because it just happened to fit...

Neither the Mag or the Ammo is rare, ammo 25 cents EA. Mag $10-15.
11/30/2008 10:43:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
The mag is a Brno LMG Mag ( Think orig Czech Bren Gun ) model VZ-33 303 brit or VZ-52 7.62x54R.

Ammo is common German marked WW2 8x56R someone stuck it in mag because it just happened to fit...

Neither the Mag or the Ammo is rare, ammo 25 cents EA. Mag $10-15.


I looked at of the Brno LMG's on this website (link below) and don't see the same mags. The one that I have is looks to be different than any shown there. As said, I'm no expert, just trying to learn. AM I looking at the wrong gun?
CLICK HERE



11/30/2008 11:09:22 AM EDT
[#9]
The mag is for a Czech ZB-39 (Bulgarian contract in 8x56R).






11/30/2008 11:30:00 AM EDT
[#10]
THANK YOU ALL for the help, I do appreciate it.
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