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Posted: 1/16/2023 10:04:47 PM EDT
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Anyone at shot show got any information on this rifle? Like the MSRP? I definitely need one. It has that old school nostalgia about it. Reminds me of the Ruger Deer Rifles in 44 mag.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/shot-show-the-henry-homesteader-9mm-semi-automatic-carbine/amp/ |
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Pretty cool lookin', I like it. Glad Henry is expanding out into semiauto.
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Award: 24/365 Most likely to be an appendix.
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Looks life FRNA raffle item only for now. If only it was tube feed
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That's pretty cool. Now somebody make a bolt action 9mm!!
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Now that is something I would like.
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I don’t know why but I like it
Well…. The peep sights, ambi safety, and tapped for you choice of rail PLUS magwell modularity is good thinking. I also think it looks like the French MAS series which are some of my favorite mil surps. |
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Just like before and right after the first AWB, the big gun manufacturers are planning alternatives in case the feds put a new ban in place
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STAND UP OR SHUT UP!
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Another article just came out regarding this carbine: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/01/16/shot-2023-henry-usas-new-semiauto-9mm-carbine-homesteader/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
MSRP: $928-$959. |
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07/02 manufacturer and dealer. I believe we should all be heavily armed, let me help you get there!
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never underestimate the stupidity of other people
GA, USA
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Just saw this on Reddit. Seems like a fun plinker to me. 950 isn’t crazy and it’s good the Ruger pcc will have some competition
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"every exercise is a low back exercise if you do it wrong enough"
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Interesting .
Wonder if there is any plans for 45acp? |
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Originally Posted By BorderDave: Another article just came out regarding this carbine: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/01/16/shot-2023-henry-usas-new-semiauto-9mm-carbine-homesteader/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss MSRP: $928-$959. View Quote Oh ya that’s very reasonable. I’m assuming street price will be in the $850 range. I’m a lever action guy so the walnut stock and old look really appeal to me. Plus I have so many PPC this is something new and different in an old school way. I read that it has virtually no recoil either. It says it’s direct blow block but would be interesting to see what the internals look like. |
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In 10mm taking Glock mags sure I'd take one for $950.
In 9mm not so much for that price. |
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It has that retro gun vibe in the best kind of way. It looks like it would fit right along next to a BAR or A5 shotgun in terms of astetics. If it's reliable I think it has potential to be a hit.
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Originally Posted By vengarr: Ria does. View Quote I believe RIA made a 22 TCM bolt action that people were able to fit a 9mm barrel to (no other changes required). I followed some of the guys doing this awhile back. I don't believe they ever made a 9mm bolt action from the factory. I could be wrong though... |
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They have the marketing team POF should have had.
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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I wish they made a short throw threaded .45acp Mare's leg that took 1911 mags with classic lines that hint more to steampunk than modern tactical. That would be awesome and a stamp/short stock away from a great quiet sbr.
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If you are putting a lot of effort into arguing with me, you are probably really just wasting your time, sorry.
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reminds me of the remington 740 series and 7400.
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"You're no daisy! You're no daisy at all. Poor soul, you were just too high strung."
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New For 2023: Henry Repeating Arms Homesteader |
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Originally Posted By BGENE: The Ruger is a heavy pig, this has my interest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BGENE: Originally Posted By mrozowjj: It has that retro gun vibe in the best kind of way. It looks like it would fit right along next to a BAR or A5 shotgun in terms of astetics. If it's reliable I think it has potential to be a hit. The Ruger is a heavy pig, this has my interest. If they make a VP9 magwell, or a Beretta 92 magwell, I'm absolutely in. And if someone makes a "mini BAR" cosmetic kit, I'm definitely in |
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<**Me:**> I just spent 95% of my paycheck on LaRue stuff, within 30 minutes of getting paid. < **mfingar:**> For what it's worth, Dillo Dust is great on Ramen.
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:If they make a VP9 magwell, or a Beretta 92 magwell, I'm absolutely in. View Quote Making a Beretta 92 magwell for Homesteader is on my radar, but it's too early to make any promises. We need guns ship first. In addition the Beretta 92 magwell for Ruger PC took two years to make, while it went through half a dozen of design approaches. It is a particularly difficult magazine to support aftermarket, unless the gun is designed to take it. I think VP9 would be a child's play, but it's very rarely requested outside of Arfcom. Even less demand than for XD. |
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Originally Posted By zaitcev: Making a Beretta 92 magwell for Homesteader is on my radar, but it's too early to make any promises. We need guns ship first. In addition the Beretta 92 magwell for Ruger PC took two years to make, while it went through half a dozen of design approaches. It is a particularly difficult magazine to support aftermarket, unless the gun is designed to take it. I think VP9 would be a child's play, but it's very rarely requested outside of Arfcom. Even less demand than for XD. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By zaitcev: Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:If they make a VP9 magwell, or a Beretta 92 magwell, I'm absolutely in. Making a Beretta 92 magwell for Homesteader is on my radar, but it's too early to make any promises. We need guns ship first. In addition the Beretta 92 magwell for Ruger PC took two years to make, while it went through half a dozen of design approaches. It is a particularly difficult magazine to support aftermarket, unless the gun is designed to take it. I think VP9 would be a child's play, but it's very rarely requested outside of Arfcom. Even less demand than for XD. |
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<**Me:**> I just spent 95% of my paycheck on LaRue stuff, within 30 minutes of getting paid. < **mfingar:**> For what it's worth, Dillo Dust is great on Ramen.
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Originally Posted By zaitcev: Making a Beretta 92 magwell for Homesteader is on my radar, but it's too early to make any promises. We need guns ship first. In addition the Beretta 92 magwell for Ruger PC took two years to make, while it went through half a dozen of design approaches. It is a particularly difficult magazine to support aftermarket, unless the gun is designed to take it. I think VP9 would be a child's play, but it's very rarely requested outside of Arfcom. Even less demand than for XD. View Quote Somebody somewhere suggested it would be easy to make one of those look like a baby BAR. That would be beyond cute. |
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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This is GREAT!! Reminds me of the, uh I'm blanking, Remington 08? Turn of the century autoloader, one of the guns in the Barrow gang ambush I think....
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Looks like a Daisey BB gun
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_8
This is what comes to mind for me.... I freaking want one of these Henrys for ZERO valid use reasons! |
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I'd be interested in one only if they decide to make it in 45acp and run 1911 mags like the Marlin Camp carbines
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Tell me more? Like where to buy these? Or where to subscribe to your newsletter for future product updates? View Quote Sorry of being obtuse, but did you mean Ruger or Henry by "these"? For Ruger, you just go to eBay. But Henry model does not yet exist. In fact the guns do not ship to customers yet. |
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Originally Posted By zaitcev: Sorry of being obtuse, but did you mean Ruger or Henry by "these"? For Ruger, you just go to eBay. But Henry model does not yet exist. In fact the guns do not ship to customers yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By zaitcev: Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Tell me more? Like where to buy these? Or where to subscribe to your newsletter for future product updates? Sorry of being obtuse, but did you mean Ruger or Henry by "these"? For Ruger, you just go to eBay. But Henry model does not yet exist. In fact the guns do not ship to customers yet. Wrong In stock and for sale on Gunbroker, almost bought one today but resisted. You can see from pics at FFL: Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Had my hands on one today. Gave it back really quick. Kind of crude, IMHO. Like a 2x4 carved with a dull machete. Very clunky and shouldered like a shovel. Where they got the price I have no idea. Maybe at $400 I might try it.
Have yet to see a accuracy report. I have my doubts based on experience with other Henry's. |
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Held one today. It was heavier than expected and felt overbuilt. Trigger was okish, but only pulled it once. Build quality felt and looked 100% (it is a Henry). Nothing really too objectionable or deal breaking, but think they could have come in a bit lighter.
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This doesn't fill the market space better than a Ruger PC carbine IMO. PC Carbine also has take down feature and is several hundred cheaper. No wood furniture though
Homestead is nice but wish they dumped the energy into something like the Lever Action 9mm POF Tombstone. |
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Originally Posted By kaijie: This doesn't fill the market space better than a Ruger PC carbine IMO. PC Carbine also has take down feature and is several hundred cheaper. No wood furniture though Homestead is nice but wish they dumped the energy into something like the Lever Action 9mm POF Tombstone. View Quote I would prefer this to a Ruger PCC. I dont care for the takedown feature of the Ruger, and the wood furniture is classy. Though it could definitely be nicer if it was cheaper. Many options this year to spend money on, I cant buy them all at once. Though I do agree with making a 9mm lever gun. |
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So, after watching Honest Outlaw's vids on it, I wonder if Henry has un-fucked it yet?
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No disrespect to you guys who are attracted to such things.
But it’s a 9mm RIFLE. When I need to do RIFLE stuff, 9mm doesn’t deliver. It’s fine as a novelty I suppose. If you have time and money for novelties. 9mm in a well-vetted, heavy, short-barreled, suppressed, shoulder-fired, SELECT-FIRE weapon certainly serves a niche role. If you are into that sort of application. This thing serves only to briefly appease the enemies of our right to self-defense, or to scoop up cash from the “it’ll be swell for the women and children” crowd, or for the cover of Outdoor Life magazine. Maybe the idea of hunting rabbits with it or some such. They will make a run of them. Most of the run will sort-of function as advertised. With some ammunition. And if you “got a good one.” People won’t buy them after the initial release. |
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Originally Posted By W_E_G: No disrespect to you guys who are attracted to such things. But it’s a 9mm RIFLE. When I need to do RIFLE stuff, 9mm doesn’t deliver. It’s fine as a novelty I suppose. If you have time and money for novelties. 9mm in a well-vetted, heavy, short-barreled, suppressed, shoulder-fired, SELECT-FIRE weapon certainly serves a niche role. If you are into that sort of application. This thing serves only to briefly appease the enemies of our right to self-defense, or to scoop up cash from the “it’ll be swell for the women and children” crowd, or for the cover of Outdoor Life magazine. Maybe the idea of hunting rabbits with it or some such. They will make a run of them. Most of the run will sort-of function as advertised. With some ammunition. And if you “got a good one.” People won’t buy them after the initial release. View Quote You know this is the "Pistol Caliber Carbines" sub-forum, right? |
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As a HD weapon where your max range is measured in feet, not yards, it's superior to a pistol of the same caliber in 2 important areas. 1st, it's much easier to aim accurately and 2nd, the longer barrel gives it about 200fps more velocity and a corresponding muzzle energy increase. Further, it has significantly lower report and muzzle blast than an AR as well. Think of it at close ranges as a M1 Carbine on steroids. Mount a light on it and you're GTG.
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Originally Posted By COSteve: As a HD weapon where your max range is measured in feet, not yards, it's superior to a pistol of the same caliber in 2 important areas. 1st, it's much easier to aim accurately and 2nd, the longer barrel gives it about 200fps more velocity and a corresponding muzzle energy increase. Further, it has significantly lower report and muzzle blast than an AR as well. Think of it at close ranges as a M1 Carbine on steroids. Mount a light on it and you're GTG. View Quote Wait, what? 9mm pcc > .30 carbine? |
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Originally Posted By Chipper44mag: Had my hands on one today. Gave it back really quick. Kind of crude, IMHO. Like a 2x4 carved with a dull machete. Very clunky and shouldered like a shovel. Where they got the price I have no idea. Maybe at $400 I might try it. Have yet to see a accuracy report. I have my doubts based on experience with other Henry's. View Quote One guy on youtube had a dud. Jam o matic with the base magazine system. Got it back iirc with the Glock mag adapter which is what he wanted all along. It still glitched for about six mags but seemed to get more reliable. so I guess I am skeptical. I was mildly curious but that $900 price tag is too much for my level of curiosity. |
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Why does it need to weigh as much as an AR? That fact alone is so damn tiresome, especially at the asking price, and im definitely not seeing anyrhing special about that wood.
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Originally Posted By Macchina: I believe RIA made a 22 TCM bolt action that people were able to fit a 9mm barrel to (no other changes required). I followed some of the guys doing this awhile back. I don't believe they ever made a 9mm bolt action from the factory. I could be wrong though... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Macchina: Originally Posted By vengarr: Ria does. I believe RIA made a 22 TCM bolt action that people were able to fit a 9mm barrel to (no other changes required). I followed some of the guys doing this awhile back. I don't believe they ever made a 9mm bolt action from the factory. I could be wrong though... The RIA bolt 22 TCMs, have been re-chambered to 9mm, but the bolt face needs to be modified. RIA had two different bolts, one has a Glock type extractor, and the other has a "long" extractor. Either one needs the face opened up a few thousands of an inch. The case head of the 22 TCM cartridge is the same as the 5.56 (0.378"), vs the 9mm Para (0.394"). So a converted RIA TCM is just a little bit more than a barrel swap. Also to stay on topic: The Homesteader does kind of have a Browning type vibe to it. I would like to see on in the flesh, before I decide if I need one or not. |
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Local Scheels got 2 in. $919 on the tag. It felt pretty solid, and wasn't too heavy.
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In any case, as has been noted, the "Fudd" PCC is a pretty small market segment. I have a Thompson 27A1 .45 ACP that punches my ticket for the category, and wish Henry the best of luck with their Homesteader 9mm product.
MHO, YMMV, etc. |
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I do generally like Henry, but not this.
Will do the Ruger. Doc |
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Executive Director, Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
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Anybody know what model of Sig Sauer magazine it will accept? If it's P226/228/229, I'm in. If it's P320, I'm out.
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Get Wayne LaPierre out of the NRA. Don't give them another cent until he's gone.
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