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Posted: 7/16/2007 7:01:32 PM EDT
| I have seen these for sale at all the gun shows and was wondering just how good or bad they really are. Several dealers I talked to about them say they are good weapons. I almost bought one at the last show I went to, but thought I'd try to get some info from anyone who knows anything about them first. Was looking at a 9mm and thought for $139.00 even if it isn't that great it wouldn't be that big of a loss. This would be mainly for target practice, but when I think about a handgun for that price it makes me think Saturday night special. I went to there website too and was looking at there carbines. |
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Hi-Point pistols--Big, clunky, ugly, cheap. Shoot decently, and are better made than their predecessors. $140 seems a bit high; I live in WA (min wage is ~$8/hr) and my local shop has them for about $125-130ish. I personally wouldn't mess with one, but for a beat up piece it isn't too bad. Hi-Point carbines--Funky, kinda clunky, cheap, sort of "stormtrooper blaster" look to them. Very reliable and fairly accurate for the money. I bought one used for about $70. I've never cleaned it or adjusted sights. Only issues I ever had were with an aftermarket mag. Factory mags ran 100%, and I gave it just about every kind of cheap brass-cased 9mm I could find. I've never run Wolf or aluminum Blazers, but it would probably work. Easy to kill clays at 50yds, every time. I was killing clays at 110-120 yds one of the last times I had it out. I had to play with some Kentucky windage, but I'd say 1 out of 3 (or maybe 2) was a hit. The others were really close. Maybe that's not good enough for some, but for a $70 gun with cheap ammo, and me not trying as hard as I can, I figure it is acceptable. |
| IMHO the Hi Point pistols are clunky and I think that you should save a few more bucks and get a quality used firearm. I believe their pistols are simple blowback and I would not trust my life with one. That being said if I was completly broke and $140 is all I could spare to protect yourself then I would buy one in a second. A just dont see the point of having a hi point pistol as a range toy, on the other hand I really would like to get my hands on one of their 9mm carbines. It is a reliable alternative to the Beretta Cx4 carbine which I think costs a little too much for a range toy. With the ATI stock they look very similar too! |
| I own the 9mm carbine. After an initial trip back to the factory (when new the rifle would jam every two or three rounds) it has been 100% reliable with both brass and steel cased ammo. The turnaround was less than a week and they gave me a couple of extra mags "for my trouble". Of the people that have owned one of their pistols most report very good results. |
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id say skip it and look for a better firearm, i call them saturday night specials. i remember being at a gun show looking at pistols and and a group of older guys were talking about how good the hi points were and they are the same as hk, sig, fn, ect, i was holding my laugh until a black dude looked at em and the dealer said they had a life time warrenty and he bought one, then i couldnt hold in my laugh anymore as the deal breaker was the warrenty. |
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I've put thousands of rounds of every description through my 995, every conceivable case and bullet combo and it really doesn't seem to care. A red dot on top makes it a little easier to shoot, but the irons work great as well. It will indeed hold minute of beer can at 100 or so yards, but Kentucky windage may be needed. My only real issue with it has been the firing pin spring. Over time it slowly crapped out to the point that it just didn't work. A short call to the factory and a new one was at my doorstep in roughly a week. I really haven't given it much range time lately as a new Bushmaster has taken my time and attention. The carbines are fun plinkers, not all that much to look at, but they are a pretty decent deal for the money. If mine give me too much more grief I'll just pawn it and put that money toward a new one. HK's they aren't, but they aren't priced like HK's either. As far as the pistols go, couldn't tell ya, but they look cheap to me. |
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i have yet to hear much negative thought from actual owners of thier guns. i have had a 9mm carbine that was a VERY good rifle. the pistols are pretty much worth what you pay. clunky ugly cheap metal and plastic. short overall life due to cheap materiels. that said HP has some of the best customoer service in the industry and they will keep the gun running if/when something fails. i'd own one as a plinker but not sure i'd trust my life to one. that said i have very seldom seen one jam at the range. |
| I help run the relays for the conceal carry classes at the gun range I work at. I can tell you that of the one or two people who come to every class with a HP, one or two of them will have a malfunction of some type. That said, some of the malfunctions are due to not caring for the weapon properly ("I'm supposed to clean/oil it?"), crappy ammunition and unfamiliarity with fire arms (i.e., specifically, limpwristing). But I have to wonder because we have people with other fire arms who have the same issues but not nearly the number of malfunctions I see with HP. All I can tell you is that based on what I have seen I don't think I would have one. |
| Decent deal for your money, not much first hand experence with their line of pistols, only shot those that belonged to others, went bang every time and decent accuracy for the crappy sights that were on them. I did own one of the 9mm carbines, shot great, very accurate, someone offered me more than I had in it and sold it like the dumbass I am. I stop at allmost every pawnshop I drive past looking for a used .40 but would snatch up a 9mm. Even if you buy a ragged out, broken piece of shit, send it back to HiPoint and they referb it back to NIB, cant beat that with a stick! |
| The pistols are a favorite of inner city criminals, seems every time there is a major bust the police do their press conference and the weapon of choice is a highpoint pistol bought strawman in the south and sold on the streets for a heck of a lot more than the $125 it sold for in the shop. |
 Yeah it'd probably only take one hit upside the head to kill someone with one of those things...they are big and ugly...I don't understand why the slide is sooooo big on them. I wouldn't get one of the full sizes just because of that...I was looking at a 9mm. I doubt I will get one of the pistols but I may break down and get one of the carbines. I've got a Taurus .40 PT-24/7 Pro for self defense and just purchased Taurus .40 Mellinium Pro for conceal carry. |
Good point TBS. It does seem that the people who bad-mouth the Hi Points are guys who don't own one. |
I've never owned one. They may be the greatest thing since pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't pay $99 for a filthy pot-metal piece of...... ooops - wrong movie. Nevermind.  j/k!!! |
You should buy the Hi Point carbine. I always scoffed at them and was going to buy the Beretta, but just for the hell of it I bought a Hi Point 4095 carbine and I love this damn thing. |
I've owned five or six of them. I sold one last month for $75 that that had at least two cases (2,800 rounds) of IMI 147gr +P+ sub-gun ammo through it, and it's still running like a champ! You'll never hear me say anything bad about HP's little stamped carbines. They're one of the best kept secrets around. Great plinkers for the money, they come with a small but usable rail, sling, etc., but most importantly - they work! I like 'em! 
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I like my 9mm pistol. It is a safe queen, but it gets a few hundred rounds a year. It would be a good give away gun to a friend in need of something cheap. The slide is heavy because it is a straight blowback and it needs the mass to keep it closed up long enough to dissipate the pressures. I bought it because I don't like 9mm and didn't want to spend alot on one in that caliber. Now I like 9mm and will likely get something else. Also if has a fixed barrel and is quite accurate. |
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I heard they run, but I can't bring myself to spend more than $100 on something that UGLY, especially when you can get a CZ-52 in the same general price range. I've been looking for a deal on one of the carbines, but all I seem to be able to find is places that want $200, new, for 'em. I'm not THAT curious. |
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My old man has the 9mm Pistol, my brother owns at least the .40 pistol and I own the 9mm carbine. My brother had some problems with the .40, but my dad's and mine run like tops. I got a bent firing pin on the carbine and sent it back for repair (free, lifetime, first or 100th owner, no questions asked phenomenal warranty) and they sent it back in much better shape with free magazines and I haven't had a hiccup since. I've probably put at least a thousand rounds through it. They do feel and preform a bit better when you dress them up in the ATI stock though. If you can't get anything else, these would be OK go-to guns, and with the new manufacturing that they're doing, they may be good from the beginning, but with the older ones I would have held out for something a little more robust or at least made sure that all the hiccups were worked out. With the price and warranty, I'd say they're at least worth trying out and are a good value. There's lots of info here: linky ETA: My page 2 beat up your honor student! 
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| I would definitely get one if ammo were free. Even 9mm these days costs too much too waste shooting with a HiPoint. I think anyone who already has a decent handgun would be better off sending more rounds down range with it than splitting ammo with a new HiPoint. That being said, my friend has one (his only gun) and I'm looking forward to bringing him to the range to try it out. |
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Don't know about the pistols, but the 995 carbine is a great little weapon. I did the ATI stock conversion on it, so it looks just like a Beretta CX4 Storm, at 1/3 the cost. At 50yards it can carve out the center of a target, so for HomeDefense that is my SHTF weapon, if I want something more than my .45 pistol. Also you never know what prices of ammo will be at, so If I ever run out of .223, I can still shoot this with 9mm's. The only drawback is the 10round singlestack mags.If they'd offer a DS version with 20rds or so it'd be a great seller IMO. |
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