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Posted: 12/4/2021 10:39:52 PM EST
[#1]
I like the Marlin Darks - but think they could be marginally improved on. The problems is most of the improvements would increase production costs. I liked the short lived nitrided SS models - rust resistance of SS, but without the bling. I would love to have a takedown. If they want to continue modernization - how about a Mare's Lag version - but sell it with a stock so once you have it form 4'ed, you could have a factory lever action SBR. That way you could have a trapper length after you put on the suppressor.
I love the idea of a 454 as well, but at some point it becomes less useful. I want a light, highly suppressible rifle. A 454 really does not make sense as a subsonic rifle, plus the pressures would require a rather heavy and bulky suppressor. |
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Posted: 12/4/2021 10:45:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to have a takedown. I've often wonder what the advantage are of a takedown carbine/rifle? |
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Posted: 12/4/2021 10:48:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've often wonder what the advantage are of a takedown carbine/rifle? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would love to have a takedown. I've often wonder what the advantage are of a takedown carbine/rifle? They store in smaller places. If that's not important it's obviously not a big deal. |
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Posted: 12/4/2021 10:55:27 PM EST
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I guess it depends on where you are and what you do. I am at the ranch basically daily. It would be nice to have a smaller, less obvious package in the truck than a full length rifle. It would encourage me to go to the ranch with a rifle rather than a pistol. Likewise, when I hunt, I usually walk in. A tackdown could fit in a day pack - lots easier to transport on foot as well. Not to mention in an urban area - it is sometimes nice to be able to carry a rifle without advertising you are carrying a rifle. Take when I worked in an office in Austin. Everybody though I played a lot of tennis after work. Once upon a time, we would take long guns into the office if we were going hunting or shooting after work - but then the Karens started to bitch. Nobody ever bitched about my tennis racket... (That allowed me to carry a hunting rifle so I could go strait to the ranch without wasting an hour running by the house first). Abet, all of those were with a broken down SBR AR variant. The 458 Socom SBR was a fine hog rifle.
That said, I like shooting suppressed more now - a lever action can be suppressed a little better than a semi automatic. Likewise, it takes a bit of effort to make an AR SBR lighter than a Marlin lever action carbine. |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 12:09:10 AM EST
[#5]
Anybody hear any new specifics about the release in Mid-December?
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Posted: 12/5/2021 9:33:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anybody hear any new specifics about the release in Mid-December? There's a little info in the linked article. Marlin update Killoy says that the 1895, 336 and 1894 will be first.  New Lever-Action Marlin Rifle from Ruger Coming in 2021 | Gun Talk Radio |
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Posted: 12/5/2021 7:18:00 PM EST
[#7]
Thanks, but I was hoping for newer information, like in the last week. They already said mid-December. Something more specific would be nice...
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Posted: 12/9/2021 7:33:27 AM EST
[#8]
When they get caught up(relative term) I hope they introduce a couple take downs. .357 and/or .44 would be great!
Ruger does seem to be innovative and responsive to the market. |
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Posted: 12/9/2021 9:01:11 AM EST
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Well, the latest news is they have Ruger/Marlin products to buy, it's just that none of them are guns, yet. Marlin Gear.
Here's hoping they get the firearms out as efficiently as the promotional products.
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Posted: 12/12/2021 7:06:57 PM EST
[#10]
I just hope I can get a 336Y for under $500 when it’s all said and done...
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Posted: 12/12/2021 7:54:15 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I put one of these on my 1894..They have just the safety delete too https://beartoothmercantile.com/saddle-ring-safety-delete/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just put a c-clip through the red slot side. It absolutely sucks to crank a couple live rounds out during a match because the safety got bumped on. I am going to look for the safety delete now, never considered it. I put one of these on my 1894..They have just the safety delete too https://beartoothmercantile.com/saddle-ring-safety-delete/ Me too! Much better! 
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Posted: 12/12/2021 10:02:11 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just hope I can get a 336Y for under $500 when it’s all said and done... |
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Posted: 12/18/2021 5:06:29 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just hope I can get a 336Y for under $500 when it’s all said and done... I found a LNIB used one that had really good fit and finish and a smooth action for a Remlin. I gave $600 because the two new ones I could have bought at $500 a couple years ago and another used one looked like shit. I use it myself as a ultra compact tree stand rifle with a ultra lite leupold 2.5. I would love a SS version. I haven’t done it but I was going to add a bit more LOP with a decelerator pad. I don’t want to give it up but I have offered it to a few friends to borrow for their kids. |
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Posted: 12/18/2021 6:25:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I found a LNIB used one that had really good fit and finish and a smooth action for a Remlin. I gave $600 because the two new ones I could have bought at $500 a couple years ago and another used one looked like shit. I use it myself as a ultra compact tree stand rifle with a ultra lite leupold 2.5. I would love a SS version. I haven’t done it but I was going to add a bit more LOP with a decelerator pad. I don’t want to give it up but I have offered it to a few friends to borrow for their kids. I remember them blowing them out for like $329 a piece from grab-a-gun and the likes. I wanted to buy a few then, but by the time I had the spending money, they were all gone. I just want a compact repeating rifle that’s trimmer than an AR, but faster than a bolt gun. A Remington 7600 Carbine in .308 would be swell, but they aren’t making those anymore either. I want something to tag along camping that’s more than my .357 Rossi but less than my 20” 336. We have long black bear seasons hear and cougar is open year round. A 336y just makes sense. A 94 Trapper/Wrangler would work, but I honestly prefer the Marlin action. |
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Posted: 12/19/2021 6:35:11 PM EST
[#15]
With less than 2 weeks left in this year I’m doubting that Ruger will have any of the Marlins in distribution before years end.
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Posted: 12/19/2021 7:04:10 PM EST
[#16]
Bummer
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Posted: 12/20/2021 3:25:04 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With less than 2 weeks left in this year I’m doubting that Ruger will have any of the Marlins in distribution before years end. Marlin's Instagram posted today that 1895 SBLs are shipping today. |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 3:28:33 PM EST
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Posted: 12/20/2021 3:39:15 PM EST
[#19]
Wonder who has them?
According to this..., they are threading the barrel on the SBL. That is nice, it was the one feature I was missing from my wish list. Hope it's true.BTW... MSRP: $1,399, (gulp) |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 4:34:55 PM EST
[#20]
curious on street price; I'd be at $850 after threading my 1895GBL, not including a refinish which I need since it's blued.
I prefer bead blasted (dull) silver, like NP3 |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 4:39:22 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, they bought it all ... Ruger seems to go cheaper and cheaper every year, look at that Wrangler. I really hope that they product a quality lever gun, I'd pay up for it. I think my Remlin 94c (2018) was about $700.00 out the door, I wouldn't trade it for any JM gun. Henry charges more for their guns. LETS GO BRANDON..oops, I mean Marlin expanded into an entry level market to take it back from foreign made guns? Thats counts as going cheaper and cheaper? they hooked the entry level guy on a wrangler, who will step up to a single six, then to a blackhawk... Its not like they stopped making them? edited due to not in GD I think this is going to be great for both companies. Affordably built Marlins will take business back from the imported lever guns as well. Since this is the lever forum |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 4:40:36 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder who has them? According to this..., they are threading the barrel on the SBL. That is nice, it was the one feature I was missing from my wish list. Hope it's true.BTW... MSRP: $1,399, (gulp) threading confirmed |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 6:03:37 PM EST
[#23]
That's awesome that they're all threaded… I hope Ruger learned and the 1894s are also all threaded.
I'm a buyer of a stainless 1894 in 44 mag if they are threaded. Would be nice if it was a 16 inch barrel also… |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 7:02:09 PM EST
[#24]
Looks like they toned down the "read the manual" warning too!
Looks like a winner |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 7:12:14 PM EST
[#25]
Personally, I wish the threading was optional, but it won't keep me from buying one.
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Posted: 12/20/2021 7:27:21 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Personally, I wish the threading was optional, but it won't keep me from buying one. What’s the downside? |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 7:44:33 PM EST
[#27]
I won't buy an 1894 if they're threaded.
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Posted: 12/20/2021 7:48:42 PM EST
[#28]
Threading would be the one thing I have done to the rifle if I bought one, so I'm pretty happy they're doing it from the factory
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Posted: 12/20/2021 8:23:13 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Threading would be the one thing I have done to the rifle if I bought one, so I'm pretty happy they're doing it from the factory  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 8:47:26 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s the downside? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Personally, I wish the threading was optional, but it won't keep me from buying one. What’s the downside? None, really. Just would prefer the look of a traditional barrel on this particular gun as opposed to something "tactical " on a traditional rifle I know I'd never hang a can on. Just a minor nit. I have threaded guns and suppressors FWIW. |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 8:50:47 PM EST
[#31]
Don't look so bad...
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Posted: 12/20/2021 8:58:47 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't look so bad... https://content.osgnetworks.tv/rifleshooter/content/photos/ruger-marlin-004-1200x800.jpg I'd  That front sight would definitely go though. |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 9:32:59 PM EST
[#33]
I had hoped that Ruger would have stayed with the traditional Marlin look. If they put trick rails, awful looking sights, and threaded barrels on the rest of the Marlin lever line I’m out. I’ll spend my money on Henrys.
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Posted: 12/20/2021 10:44:17 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had hoped that Ruger would have stayed with the traditional Marlin look. If they put trick rails, awful looking sights, and threaded barrels on the rest of the Marlin lever line I’m out. I’ll spend my money on Henrys. It's not much different from the 1895 SBL they were making before Freedom Group went under. |
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Posted: 12/20/2021 10:59:09 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None, really. Just would prefer the look of a traditional barrel on this particular gun as opposed to something "tactical " on a traditional rifle I know I'd never hang a can on. Just a minor nit. I have threaded guns and suppressors FWIW. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Personally, I wish the threading was optional, but it won't keep me from buying one. What’s the downside? None, really. Just would prefer the look of a traditional barrel on this particular gun as opposed to something "tactical " on a traditional rifle I know I'd never hang a can on. Just a minor nit. I have threaded guns and suppressors FWIW. I figured that was the beef it just seems a little weird on that particular gun fits right in. The SBL is far from a classic. Now on a classic gun I am in total agreement. |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 5:19:13 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I figured that was the beef it just seems a little weird on that particular gun fits right in. The SBL is far from a classic. Now on a classic gun I am in total agreement. Different strokes I guess. Looking at the pics that have been posted, I'll have to see one in person, but am hoping a non-threaded version will emerge. If I'd bought a JM, or if I buy one of these, I'd remove the rail and replace it with more traditional sight. I'm odd I guess. |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 7:21:11 AM EST
[#37]
Funny thing about all these threaded barrels that are coming out standard, there are probably 1,000 threaded barrels out there for every registered suppressor...I mean its not like the government has signaled an end to suppressor registration, tax, etc.
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Posted: 12/21/2021 8:11:27 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing about all these threaded barrels that are coming out standard, there are probably 1,000 threaded barrels out there for every registered suppressor...I mean its not like the government has signaled an end to suppressor registration, tax, etc. Lever actions are unique in this regard because it's $$$ to thread one after the fact because you have to move the front sight and a shorten the magazine tube. $300 is not uncommon cost to thread a lever action - it costs just a couple dollars to thread it at the factory. The small cost of threading is the only downside, but it gives you access to a slightly larger market. I wouldn't be surprised if they make non-threaded versions in the future, just like so many other guns that they make. It would be easy to machine off the portion that is normally threaded during production. 16 inch threaded 1894s would be a hot seller, I hope Ruger is listening! Also did anybody else catch that the front sight on those SBL is fiber optic and also has tritium in it? That's pretty cool. |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 10:20:53 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lever actions are unique in this regard because it's $$$ to thread one after the fact because you have to move the front sight and a shorten the magazine tube. $300 is not uncommon cost to thread a lever action - it costs just a couple dollars to thread it at the factory. The small cost of threading is the only downside, but it gives you access to a slightly larger market. I wouldn't be surprised if they make non-threaded versions in the future, just like so many other guns that they make. It would be easy to machine off the portion that is normally threaded during production. 16 inch threaded 1894s would be a hot seller, I hope Ruger is listening! Also did anybody else catch that the front sight on those SBL is fiber optic and also has tritium in it? That's pretty cool. Exactly. It’s not exclusive to lever guns but they are one of the best examples. |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 11:27:20 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing about all these threaded barrels that are coming out standard, there are probably 1,000 threaded barrels out there for every registered suppressor...I mean its not like the government has signaled an end to suppressor registration, tax, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing about all these threaded barrels that are coming out standard, there are probably 1,000 threaded barrels out there for every registered suppressor...I mean its not like the government has signaled an end to suppressor registration, tax, etc. All the better to encourage more people to get suppressors and make their use more widespread. Quoted: Lever actions are unique in this regard because it's $$$ to thread one after the fact because you have to move the front sight and a shorten the magazine tube. $300 is not uncommon cost to thread a lever action - it costs just a couple dollars to thread it at the factory. The small cost of threading is the only downside, but it gives you access to a slightly larger market. I wouldn't be surprised if they make non-threaded versions in the future, just like so many other guns that they make. It would be easy to machine off the portion that is normally threaded during production. 16 inch threaded 1894s would be a hot seller, I hope Ruger is listening! Also did anybody else catch that the front sight on those SBL is fiber optic and also has tritium in it? That's pretty cool. Lever actions are also great suppressor hosts because they are manually actuated but quicker than a bolt gun for most people. I did not catch the TFO part, I thought it was just fiber optic. I have a set of Truglo TFX's on one of my G19s and love them so I'm also glad to see that addition. |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 2:38:36 PM EST
[#41]
I want what Marlin never made... a 39D threaded, deep blued with checkered walnut furniture.
I hope (but doubt) they focus on quality and not price. I'd rather pay $1k for a nicely blued model with well fitted walnut furniture then half the price for something with a crappy finish and stained "hardwood" |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 6:44:01 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want what Marlin never made... a 39D threaded, deep blued with checkered walnut furniture. I hope (but doubt) they focus on quality and not price. I'd rather pay $1k for a nicely blued model with well fitted walnut furniture then half the price for something with a crappy finish and stained "hardwood" They have the 60, 795 and the XT listed on their site, no 39. The used model 39 just went up in value. https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/rimfire/ Hopefully Ruger will see the demand and bring it back. From what I have read, they only have the old tooling from many years ago to make these guns. I'd pay a premium for a well built 39 over what Henry makes any day. |
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Posted: 12/21/2021 7:27:10 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want what Marlin never made... a 39D threaded, deep blued with checkered walnut furniture. I hope (but doubt) they focus on quality and not price. I'd rather pay $1k for a nicely blued model with well fitted walnut furniture then half the price for something with a crappy finish and stained "hardwood" I want a 39SBL so I can hunt tiny dinosaurs! |
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Posted: 12/22/2021 8:23:02 PM EST
[#44]
I think the spiral fluted bolt is a nice touch as well as the tritium ring mentioned in the front sight, I love the factory threaded barrel even though I would prefer it to be 16” instead of 19”…… I will still buy one but will likely wait a while to see what features other models have.
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Posted: 12/22/2021 8:44:55 PM EST
[#45]
Sorry if I've missed it, but is ruger using traditional rifle grooves or microgrooves?
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Posted: 12/22/2021 9:11:48 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. 350 Legend would also be out of the question, too. The only real modern round they may be able to do is the 450 Bushmaster as it operates at lower pressures. I could see Ruger actually doing it, too, as they are one of the more prolific chamberers of the 450 BM. Mag fed 350 Legend lever. |
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Posted: 12/22/2021 9:12:56 PM EST
[#47]
Quoted: Sorry if I've missed it, but is ruger using traditional rifle grooves or microgrooves? It's in their specs, also the video that the Pres of Ruger put out last month, he talked about the new rifling. Barrel is made of 410 stainless steel and is cold hammer-forged which results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. |
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Posted: 12/22/2021 9:18:38 PM EST
[#48]
Quoted: I think the spiral fluted bolt is a nice touch as well as the tritium ring mentioned in the front sight, I love the factory threaded barrel even though I would prefer it to be 16” instead of 19”…… I will still buy one but will likely wait a while to see what features other models have. Yeah I'd think most of the threaded guns should be 16". |
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Posted: 12/22/2021 9:19:14 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want a 39SBL so I can hunt tiny dinosaurs! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I want what Marlin never made... a 39D threaded, deep blued with checkered walnut furniture. I hope (but doubt) they focus on quality and not price. I'd rather pay $1k for a nicely blued model with well fitted walnut furniture then half the price for something with a crappy finish and stained "hardwood" I want a 39SBL so I can hunt tiny dinosaurs! That would actually be pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 12/22/2021 11:34:18 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's in their specs, also the video that the Pres of Ruger put out last month, he talked about the new rifling. This is NOT the old Marlin micro-stuff. Looking forward to it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sorry if I've missed it, but is ruger using traditional rifle grooves or microgrooves? It's in their specs, also the video that the Pres of Ruger put out last month, he talked about the new rifling. Barrel is made of 410 stainless steel and is cold hammer-forged which results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. Thank you, and sorry, I haven't paid attention to or really thought of this since about June when it was abundantly clear the soonest I'd ever see one in the wild would be sometime next year. |
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