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12/11/2013 3:39:16 PM EDT
So, I've been seeing some "sporterized" (or bubba'd, if you'd prefer) Carcanos on the cheap.  I like old surplus rifles, and the 6.5 cartridge seems like a capable critter slayer.  I reload, so that helps on the ammo too.  So, how bad are these rifles?  What sort of options are there for mounting peep sights or scopes?  How's the accuracy on these guns?
12/11/2013 4:17:54 PM EDT
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Good enough to kill JFK...
12/11/2013 4:41:25 PM EDT
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I found an old Carcano a few years ago that had been chopped. I put a nos Fegan stock on it and DT a Kalinka side rail. The scope sat just left of center. It was reasonably accurate and I gave it to a friends son. He shot a whitetail that year and it dropped it on the spot. They are not too easy to scope. I think weaver still makes a side mount. One thing I don't like is the way the bolt carrier picks the shell off the clip. You really shouldn't load them without the shells being in the clip.
12/11/2013 5:25:43 PM EDT
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Depends on which rifle/carbine you have and how bad it was chopped.



The M-91 rifles and carbines all have a "gain twist" rifling.  i.e. almost no twist at the throat then it gets tighter as it gets to the muzzle.  When long rifles were converted to carbines.....guess which part of the rifling they chopped off...


Now the M-38 carbines and M-41 rifles have "normal" twist rifling that is the same rate from throat to muzzle.







On another note...the "6.5" bores are NOT .264 but closer to .267 and if you get a chopped barrel and use "undersize" .264 bullets you get REAL bad accuracy....


Some 6.5's WILL shoot the .264 bullets but that is the exception..







Carcanos CAN shoot....just gotta figure out what you have and work on it from there...

12/11/2013 7:31:17 PM EDT
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Depends on which rifle/carbine you have and how bad it was chopped.

The M-91 rifles and carbines all have a "gain twist" rifling.  i.e. almost no twist at the throat then it gets tighter as it gets to the muzzle.  When long rifles were converted to carbines.....guess which part of the rifling they chopped off...

Now the M-38 carbines and M-41 rifles have "normal" twist rifling that is the same rate from throat to muzzle.


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So how can I ID a chopped down long rifle?  What separates the M-91 from the M-38 and M-41?
12/11/2013 8:29:26 PM EDT
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My Carcano.

   

















HDH.
12/12/2013 4:39:09 AM EDT
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So how can I ID a chopped down long rifle?  What separates the M-91 from the M-38 and M-41?
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Depends on which rifle/carbine you have and how bad it was chopped.

The M-91 rifles and carbines all have a "gain twist" rifling.  i.e. almost no twist at the throat then it gets tighter as it gets to the muzzle.  When long rifles were converted to carbines.....guess which part of the rifling they chopped off...

Now the M-38 carbines and M-41 rifles have "normal" twist rifling that is the same rate from throat to muzzle.




So how can I ID a chopped down long rifle?  What separates the M-91 from the M-38 and M-41?


Does it still have the original rear sight?  Original M91 Carcanos are longer in length (~3") than a M38 or M41 leaf.  Also, M38s and lots of carcano carbines have fixed rear sights.

12/12/2013 5:48:11 AM EDT
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12/12/2013 5:55:43 AM EDT
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Also an M38 in 7.35mm can usually be found in much better condition and shoot really well also.  Took 2nd place in a local C&R match once with one.
12/12/2013 6:28:34 AM EDT
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My Carcano.

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That's as nice a complete original ensemble as I have ever seen for a Carcano. I have two nice complete cav carbines and a beautiful M41. The m41 has a turned down bolt though and someone did a beautiful job a refinished it. It came with an original Carcano sling.
12/12/2013 1:31:57 PM EDT
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Serious eye protection is essential if you shoot Carcanos. They do not handle case failure well. They can blast gas right at you. Happened to me twice. Glasses saved my sight.
12/12/2013 5:11:42 PM EDT
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Hornady makes .268 round nose bullets
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