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Posted: 10/30/2014 12:37:21 AM EDT
| Any difference? I know LBX is doing the Costa line. Is LBX still USA/Berry compliant? |
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I didn't even know LBX existed until this thread. They've got a version of the 6094 in Woodland at a fraction of the cost! Hmmm... ETA, and sorry I have no answers to your questions. lol thats ok, kinda why i was asking. Its pretty clearly stated on the LBT website, but nothing on LBX, so I figured it was imported |
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Usually, but not always, made overseas. I've heard a few LBT/LBX reps mention that depending on workload the US factory will occasionally built LBX gear if they have nothing else to work on. Quoted:
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You're correct LBX is made overseas. Usually, but not always, made overseas. I've heard a few LBT/LBX reps mention that depending on workload the US factory will occasionally built LBX gear if they have nothing else to work on. I have an LBT 6094 and an LBX 0094 (the LBX version of the 6094) and the materials are the same and stitching seem just as good. I dont see any "made in peru" tags like some of the other LBX gear i've owned had. I almost want to say the LBX 0094 is made in the US, given how consistent it is with the LBT6094. It's really that impressive. |
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I have an LBT 6094 and an LBX 0094 (the LBX version of the 6094) and the materials are the same and stitching seem just as good. I dont see any "made in peru" tags like some of the other LBX gear i've owned had. I almost want to say the LBX 0094 is made in the US, given how consistent it is with the LBT6094. It's really that impressive. Quoted:
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You're correct LBX is made overseas. Usually, but not always, made overseas. I've heard a few LBT/LBX reps mention that depending on workload the US factory will occasionally built LBX gear if they have nothing else to work on. I have an LBT 6094 and an LBX 0094 (the LBX version of the 6094) and the materials are the same and stitching seem just as good. I dont see any "made in peru" tags like some of the other LBX gear i've owned had. I almost want to say the LBX 0094 is made in the US, given how consistent it is with the LBT6094. It's really that impressive. Wish it came in multi cam. |
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So, LBX isn't airsofter grade? http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10371-lbx-tactical-molle-assault-plate-carrier-project-honor-camo-lbx-0058.aspx Then again, I could probably find you links to airsoft stores selling HSGI, Tactical Tailor, BFG, and several other big-name companies, so don't read too much into it. |
| LBX is basically for those who want LBT designs without paying the premium for USA workmanship. I would put the level of their stuff above 5.11/Condor/etc. and the construction rivals many of the USA made products I have from other manufactures. It isn't just an "airsoft" brand. |
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You're correct LBX is made overseas. Usually, but not always, made overseas. I've heard a few LBT/LBX reps mention that depending on workload the US factory will occasionally built LBX gear if they have nothing else to work on. I have an LBT 6094 and an LBX 0094 (the LBX version of the 6094) and the materials are the same and stitching seem just as good. I dont see any "made in peru" tags like some of the other LBX gear i've owned had. I almost want to say the LBX 0094 is made in the US, given how consistent it is with the LBT6094. It's really that impressive. Wish it came in multi cam. It does, it's just currently out of stock. They restock quite frequently, keep your eyes open for it. |
| The proprietary LBX "Project Honor" camo is not at all incompatible with multicam. PH camo is more or less a digitalized, large pixel form of multicam. Very similar colors are used in both PH and multicam. Put a couple PH pouches on the front of your MC PC, back off a little ways, and they blend right in. |
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PH is too light to be compared to multicam. I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. |
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I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. Quoted:
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PH is too light to be compared to multicam. I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. |
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http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10371-lbx-tactical-molle-assault-plate-carrier-project-honor-camo-lbx-0058.aspx Then again, I could probably find you links to airsoft stores selling HSGI, Tactical Tailor, BFG, and several other big-name companies, so don't read too much into it. Quoted:
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So, LBX isn't airsofter grade? http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10371-lbx-tactical-molle-assault-plate-carrier-project-honor-camo-lbx-0058.aspx Then again, I could probably find you links to airsoft stores selling HSGI, Tactical Tailor, BFG, and several other big-name companies, so don't read too much into it. You're absolutely right. |
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For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. Quoted:
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PH is too light to be compared to multicam. I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. White pixels? Maybe I need a new screen or something. It looks promising for my environment, but I really need to get a sample put it out in the sagebrush to be sure. Multicam is the best so far, but still not great. There is a pattern that works really well (my camo does double-duty as hunting camo), but it is really limited in what is offered and isn't heavy duty at all. |
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For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. Quoted:
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PH is too light to be compared to multicam. I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. Here's a link to an LBX PC in PH camo:http://lbxtactical.lbtinc.com/kit/plate-carriers-l-b-e/lbx-assault-panel.html Assuming that the PC is big enough for the full pattern to show, I don't see any white pixels. As someone who has actually compared LBX PH camo alongside typical multicam from various mfrs/vendors, I can say that PH uses almost exactly the same colors, and in approximately the same amounts as compared to MC. If anything, MC actually does have some very light objects in the pattern, which PH camo does not have. Note the considerable white splotches in this depiction of Multicam:http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00284.php. I see nothing similar, in real life using MC and PH camo in comparison. If anything, PH camo is a bit darker since it lacks the white splotches used in MC. I would caution against comparing pictures, as compared to real items. A picture, no matter how well-made is one thing, but seeing with one's own eyes is reality. I don't advocate rushing out and buying LBX gear. I don't claim Project Honor Camo is exactly the same as Multicam. What I do say is that the few items I have bought from vendors of LBX gear are well-made, and that the camo pattern, from several feet away, blends very well with multicam to the naked eye. YMMV. Since LBX is a relative newcomer to the tactical gear market, and still fairly low-profile, not too many have direct experience with it. Probably the parent company, London Bridge Trading (LBT) is working out all the kinks. My guess is that given the Berry Amendment, if LBT can get a significant portion of gear to the Mil market, and if they can offer similar, but high quality non-Berry compliant gear to the rest of the market that is not constrained by the Berry amendment, and also more they might have a good business plan. disclaimer: no financial interest. |
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White pixels? Maybe I need a new screen or something. It looks promising for my environment, but I really need to get a sample put it out in the sagebrush to be sure. Multicam is the best so far, but still not great. There is a pattern that works really well (my camo does double-duty as hunting camo), but it is really limited in what is offered and isn't heavy duty at all. Quoted:
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PH is too light to be compared to multicam. I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. White pixels? Maybe I need a new screen or something. It looks promising for my environment, but I really need to get a sample put it out in the sagebrush to be sure. Multicam is the best so far, but still not great. There is a pattern that works really well (my camo does double-duty as hunting camo), but it is really limited in what is offered and isn't heavy duty at all. Sounds weird to have white right, but when you look at deer with their brown fur with white speckles when they lay down on the ground with dried up leaves those white specs do help them blend. |
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Sounds weird to have white right, but when you look at deer with their brown fur with white speckles when they lay down on the ground with dried up leaves those white specs do help them blend. Quoted:
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PH is too light to be compared to multicam. I dunno. The other day, I took a couple of multicam caps and some pouches and pushed them all together, touching. I tossed the PH med pouch on top stepped away a few feet, and it seemed to me that it blended-in all right. Maybe your eyes are sharper than mine. For me, when viewed from a bit away, the PH stuff pops against multicam, especially with the large white pixels. PH also lacks the yellow-brown earth tones. I think it's effective against foliage and trees when upright, but suffers when prone or near the ground. With a little more color development, it could have been something pretty special. White pixels? Maybe I need a new screen or something. It looks promising for my environment, but I really need to get a sample put it out in the sagebrush to be sure. Multicam is the best so far, but still not great. There is a pattern that works really well (my camo does double-duty as hunting camo), but it is really limited in what is offered and isn't heavy duty at all. Sounds weird to have white right, but when you look at deer with their brown fur with white speckles when they lay down on the ground with dried up leaves those white specs do help them blend. Ah, regional difference. Around here, we use the white rear ends to spot them in the seas of brown: 
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In my limited experience I would say the quality of LBX varies between different products they offer My experience with three different LBX items is that I couldn't tell the difference from LBT in workmanship. One item had a less impressive nylon fabric than I'd associate with LBT, bit that was not apples to apples on the same item, just a general feel. Not trying to be fan boy, just my pretty positive opinion. |
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