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7/30/2017 5:13:28 PM EDT
So I am putting this issue in new thread cuz in a different thread other stuff was discussed.

basically, I am reloading .223, and I am using all kinds of range mixed brass fired from unknown guns.

Here is my experiment I did after setting up a Lee Full Sized die in a turret press:

PMC (5 samples) Original Size: 1.460", after resizing: 1.452"
SDI 16 (5 samples) Original Size: 1.460", after resizing: 1.456"
IMI 223REM (5 samples) Original Size: 1.459", after resizing: 1.452"
HSM[unfired] (5 samples) Original Size: 1.452", after resizing: 1.452" (no change)

My issue is, according to the received instructions here, from dryflash3, I measured the 8 cases fired from MY gun to be 1.459" on average, as a result I want to size them 1.456".

However, as you can see given those variations of a range brass, a single setup leads to a different sizing. I cannot make range brass sizing of all the brands settle to ONE value.

How should I proceed now then?
7/30/2017 5:29:09 PM EDT
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So I am putting this issue in new thread cuz in a different thread other stuff was discussed.

basically, I am reloading .223, and I am using all kinds of range mixed brass fired from unknown guns.

Here is my experiment I did after setting up a Lee Full Sized die in a turret press:

PMC (5 samples) Original Size: 1.460", after resizing: 1.452"
SDI 16 (5 samples) Original Size: 1.460", after resizing: 1.456"
IMI 223REM (5 samples) Original Size: 1.459", after resizing: 1.452"
HSM[unfired] (5 samples) Original Size: 1.452", after resizing: 1.452" (no change)

My issue is, according to the received instructions here, from dryflash3, I measured the 8 cases fired from MY gun to be 1.459" on average, as a result I want to size them 1.456".

However, as you can see given those variations of a range brass, a single setup leads to a different sizing. I cannot make range brass sizing of all the brands settle to ONE value.

How should I proceed now then?
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To get a resizing die that matches your chamber you would need a custom die or shim your current die(which is not necessary). The FL resizer you have is resizing your brass to SAAMI spec which is what it is supposed to do.
7/30/2017 5:42:48 PM EDT
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This shows spec .223/5.56 dimensions.



I noticed in your other thread the die wasn't making contact with the shell holder. If it was making contact you would most likely be getting the dimensions on the picture.
7/30/2017 5:45:21 PM EDT
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Sort your brass if your results are not acceptable for your purposes.



That said, you're well within what I would call acceptable tolerances for plinking ammo.
7/30/2017 5:47:11 PM EDT
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7/30/2017 5:50:41 PM EDT
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Who is that directed at?
7/30/2017 5:52:59 PM EDT
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Does it really matter, some of these  threads lately have been going to an extreme...

I think dryflash3 needs to step into some of these and get them back on track!

When starting out, way to many ways over think these things.  And right now, there are a few that are way over thinking.  One of the problems with over thinking, then you are not learning
7/30/2017 6:01:41 PM EDT
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Alrighty then.

I'd respond, but this ain't GD and  you're doing a fine job of derailing this thread without any help from me.
7/30/2017 6:01:59 PM EDT
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Different manufacturers use different formulations of brass, that is one of the reasons why you see differences in degrees of resizing.  The way you proceed is to not use different brass and expect the same result.
7/30/2017 6:30:43 PM EDT
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Alrighty then.

I'd respond, but this ain't GD and  you're doing a fine job of derailing this thread without any help from me.
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I have not derailed anything at all.

Just stop over thinking, it is a simple concept.

By the way, my comment was not directed at you, so just chill out.

When you get to a point when you are reloading, and there are so many questions floating around in your mind, it is time to step back, start at square one and follow what you have learned with you questions and experience.

Just step back, sit down and think, review your manuals, think about what you are doing now, not what somebody else is doing, guidelines are simply that, guidelines, every single person reloading has to develop a system that consistently works for them.

Part of the art of learning to reload, means you learn and apply what you learn to your particular situation.
7/30/2017 6:59:08 PM EDT
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Great advice and I agree with every word, much better than just posting a goofy ass emoticon.

I also remember when I started reloading and it all seemed a little overwhelming, so I try to keep that in mind when someone asks what seems like a simple question or gets caught up in minutia that's a bit above their current pay grade. We were all there once.



And no worries, I'm chilled here
7/30/2017 7:21:08 PM EDT
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alright, so I see its all about tuning and sorting now, i got the idea I guess... so I'll continue.
7/30/2017 7:30:44 PM EDT
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alright, so I see its all about tuning and sorting now, i got the idea I guess... so I'll continue.
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Buddy,

You just need to step back for a few moments and process what you have learned, there is a lot of great information on this area of the system and a good amount of it is by trial and error, that is not to say you won't make errors, but give is a few moments to let it sink in and process.  Reloading is a process, each step is important and you are dealing with explosives in a way.

But you can't learn it all in a day.

You will be fine, I am sure very soon, you will be filling rounds and having a ball.

7/30/2017 7:42:12 PM EDT
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Buddy,

You just need to step back for a few moments and process what you have learned, there is a lot of great information on this area of the system and a good amount of it is by trial and error, that is not to say you won't make errors, but give is a few moments to let it sink in and process.  Reloading is a process, each step is important and you are dealing with explosives in a way.

But you can't learn it all in a day.

You will be fine, I am sure very soon, you will be filling rounds and having a ball.

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Great advice!  Rcbro your trying to become the perfect reloader right from the start and it just doesn't work that way.  There is a learning curve.

So some of your brass is a little over-sized.  No big deal, I probably over-sized a 1,000 cases before I got a headspace guage and they all fired fine.  

If the cases easily fit and extract from your chamber by all means reload them and shoot them.  Once you have shot them from your rifle and sorted them you'll get it right.

P.S. don't forget to check the length of your cases before you prime them.  Trim if necessary
7/30/2017 10:20:30 PM EDT
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This is a Technical Forum, I take the google eyes as an insult to the OP. 

Do it again at your peril. 

Clearly stated in the tacked "Read before you post" thread to not use the google eye emo.

dryflash3
7/30/2017 10:23:08 PM EDT
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I'm going to lock this thread due to DaveP1.

He will be hearing from me.

Op feel free to start another thread and ask your questions, dryflash3
7/30/2017 10:23:35 PM EDT
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