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Posted: 9/6/2011 3:43:03 AM EDT
| I was looking for a old M16 kit when I ran into lightning links on RH custom (http://www.rh-custom.se/product.php?id_product=31) I know you cant just buy a un registered DIAS or a Lightning link so how is this website still up and running? Im also bringing this question up because AR15.com was mentioned in the feedback for the lightning link if this was my website I wouldn't want anything to do with illegal FA parts!. Is this a fake site run by the FEDS? Nothing on the website is legal Im not sure how the site is even up and running??? |
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these type of legal NFA questions are best answered in the NFA forumns under hte armory tab.
There is a 50 percernt chance these foriegn mail order full auto parts things are ATF scheme operations and a 50 percent cahnce that they are being monitored by the feds. Either way, you dog and maybe your wife's face gets shot so... sadly, this is the case b/c of a amendment to an othewise pro gun bill in '86. thank you nra  Also, fuck you charles rangle
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As stated that site is in another country. The Lightning Link is legal. However it must be registered like a machine gun. And for you in New York I suspect you are out of luck with the local laws. You might ask in the NY forum. It is impossible for an unregistered Lightning Link to be "registered" in any of the fifty states. It missed the registry by 26 years. |
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If you purchase this item and it is shipped to you in the USA, you are in violation of federal NFA laws. 10 year prison term and $250,000 fine if you get caught. So.....buy 2? 
ATF - If you're watching, that was a joke. I really love my dogs and don't want them dead. |
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It is impossible for an unregistered Lightning Link to be "registered" in any of the fifty states. It missed the registry by 26 years. You can "register" them all day long assuming you are an FFL/SOT manufacturer. Hell, I could make 1000 of them and register them on Form 2's. They would be "registered" they would just be restricted to law enforcement sales and dealer samples. |
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The lightning link as well as a DIAS is perfectly legal to own. Hell they still sell them brand new in the pages of Shotgun News. The problem comes when you own the firearm that they can be put into, then you are in violation of the NFA. You can own one or the other, not both. |
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The lightning link as well as a DIAS is perfectly legal to own. Hell they still sell them brand new in the pages of Shotgun News. The problem comes when you own the firearm that they can be put into, then you are in violation of the NFA. You can own one or the other, not both. not true. conversion devices such as DIAS's and LL's are machine guns in and of themselves. they are either in the registry and legal, or not... |
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Quoted: I thought pre81 manufacture was excluded.Quoted: The lightning link as well as a DIAS is perfectly legal to own. Hell they still sell them brand new in the pages of Shotgun News. The problem comes when you own the firearm that they can be put into, then you are in violation of the NFA. You can own one or the other, not both. not true. conversion devices such as DIAS's and LL's are machine guns in and of themselves. they are either in the registry and legal, or not... Why are they still for sale in Shotgun News? |
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I thought pre81 manufacture was excluded. Why are they still for sale in Shotgun News? ATF exempted pre-October, 1981 sears rather than blanket register them all. Registration is what's supposed to be allowed when something formerly not classified as an NFA firearm gets reclassified as one, like the free registration period for one year that was offered when ATF reclassified Street Sweepers as destructive devices. Had ATF followed their own procedures properly, all the pre-81 DIASes in existence would have had a period in which they could have been serialled and added to the registry, but ATF didn't want a hundred thousand or however many of them there are added to the registry in one fell swoop. Same should have happened for all open-bolt pistols which the ATF ruled were "too easy to convert" and halted their production for all time, while exempting all the ones already made and out in the channels of commerce. A federal court later ruled that ATF has the delegated authority to determine what is and what is not a machinegun, but does not have the authority to exempt some devices while reclassifying others. Since the ruling was only made at the district court level and was never appealed any higher, it only applies in that particular district (somewhere in Illinois, IIRC). Some feel the shotgun news sales are a sting operation, but I think it's just that ATF would rather let the pre-81 DIAS sleeping dog lie, and the district court ruling doesn't compel them to do anything further on a nationwide basis. |
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I Googled shotgun news and cant seem to find any site that sells gun parts. What is shotgun news? http://www.shotgunnews.com/ It's a firearms publication. |
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