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5/25/2008 5:17:16 PM EDT
Hey guys, anyone using WW296 when loading their 30 carbine loads? If so
what primers are you using? I typically use small pistol magnum WW when loading my 357 magnum loads. My Lee book calls for small rifle primers. Should I use non-magnum small rifle primers when loading 30 carbine with 296? What do you all think?

thanks,

-Dan
5/25/2008 7:37:52 PM EDT
[#1]
When I loaded 30 carbine with W-296 I used a standard Winchester SR primer.

No problems.
5/25/2008 11:25:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Standard small rifle works great.  They are hotter than pistol primers and you'll need the thicker cups they come with.
5/26/2008 1:06:27 AM EDT
[#3]
1. Use small rifle.  
2. You need to lube even with carbide dies (you can get away with every other or every third)

For what it's worth, I usually used IMR 4227.
5/26/2008 4:01:44 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the replies. Looks like WW SR primers it is!
I love 296 in my magnums, so I will be sticking with that, thanks!

- Dan
5/26/2008 4:21:39 AM EDT
[#5]
double tap
5/27/2008 7:16:51 AM EDT
[#6]
Does everyone lube their .30 carbine cases for resizing? I have a bunch but have not started reloading them yet.
5/27/2008 7:26:30 AM EDT
[#7]
I have not started, but straight walled cases in carbide dies you should not have to, correct me if I am wrong here..
5/27/2008 7:48:39 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I have not started, but straight walled cases in carbide dies you should not have to, correct me if I am wrong here..
You don't "have to" lube them.  But if you're smart and value your comfort (and your arm and shoulder) you'll do it anyway.  While the carbide insert in the die will work without lube, it'll be HARD with a lot of cases you try to size.  If you're going to go through a lot of sizing, you'll get it done faster and more comfortably with lubricant.
5/27/2008 8:29:14 AM EDT
[#9]
Granted you dont "need" to lube them if you are running carbide dies.  
This is the only cal I use One Shot lube for.
then I tumble for no more than 3 minutes to remove the lube just to make me feel better.

I used to use the dillon stuff but that is just too messy for this job.  Granted it rocks on full length sizing for rifle rounds.
5/27/2008 11:01:11 AM EDT
[#10]
OK, that makes sense. I guess it is a "lot of straight wall" to run up into a die.

Thanks guys.
5/27/2008 11:37:04 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Does everyone lube their .30 carbine cases for resizing? I have a bunch but have not started reloading them yet.


If you don't lube .30 Carbine cases, even for a carbide die, you will start after you crank the handle down on a few.  The thick case walls make for hard sizing, and lube makes the effort about 1 bazzillion times easier.
5/27/2008 12:37:48 PM EDT
[#12]
.30 Carbine cases are not straight walled. Most .30 carbine dies do not have carbide inserts in them so they need to be lightly lubed for reloading.

The .30 Carbine case is nominally 0.356” at the web and 0.336” at the mouth. Distance from web to mouth is 1.08” – 1.09”. This gives an average taper of about 18 thousandths per inch.
5/27/2008 1:06:07 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
.30 Carbine cases are not straight walled. Most .30 carbine dies do not have carbide inserts in them so they need to be lightly lubed for reloading.

The .30 Carbine case is nominally 0.356” at the web and 0.336” at the mouth. Distance from web to mouth is 1.08” – 1.09”. This gives an average taper of about 18 thousandths per inch.
For that matter, 9mm cases aren't "straight" either.  They're 0.381 at the base and 0.365 at the mouth...  And a lot of people use carbide dies for 9mm.

I would still recommend that some lube be used in ANY sizing operation, if for nothing else than to reduce effort.  As I've said in the past in this forum, since it's part of sizing so many of the calibers I load, I may as well just stick with a process that works, even if one step or another isn't absolutely "necessary."
5/27/2008 2:29:51 PM EDT
[#14]
I also lube one in about every 8 or 10 cases for a carbide size die. It's much easier on your arm and your tools. I keep a seperate tray of lubed cases off to the side of my work area. When I feel the sizeing force increasing, I pick up a lubed case instead of a dry one.
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