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7/12/2010 9:54:42 AM EDT
Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks
7/12/2010 10:19:51 AM EDT
[#1]
I use 25gr H335 with a 62gr bullet from my AR.........
You can't go wrong with there loading data...
7/12/2010 10:35:08 AM EDT
[#2]
I use 24.3grs with the 62 and 69 grainers. I use 27grs with the 50gr dogtown bullets. Make sure you work up to this. These loads are shot from my 16" AR.
7/12/2010 10:41:19 AM EDT
[#3]
.223 Hornady reloading data


55g V-max


Winchester WSR primer


COAL 2.250''





H335 start load 20.8g @2800fps


       Max load  23.2g @3100fps

 
7/12/2010 12:05:56 PM EDT
[#4]
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Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks


You can find a good starting load by consulting reloading data (there's lots on line) for similar bullets if you can't find data for the bullet you want to shoot.

The maximum load you'll have to determine on your own, although the published data will hint at that load, too.

That's just the way it is with reloading, there's no way around the problem.



7/12/2010 2:02:14 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks Guys, This gives me somewhere to start. I'll start working up some loads an see how she shoots.
7/12/2010 3:31:33 PM EDT
[#6]
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

Sierra data may have some warmer stuff for you.



TR
7/12/2010 3:48:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Here is a H-335 load that I shot a couple of weeks ago.

The rifle was a 16 inch M-4 Saber Defense barrel.  The lower was Anvil Arms.  1/9 twist.  I was using a TA-01 NSN ACOG.  This is not rifle that was designed for accuracy.  I am a mediocre marksman at best.  Nothing to brag about.

The load was 25.5 grs of H-335 with Hornaday 55 gr bulk purchased bullets.  The primers were 7 1/2.  The brass was unmarked NATO stamped.  Probably IMI.  The rifle was previously zeroed for LC surplus ammo.

The three shot group at the 7:00 position was my first group.  I changed magazines and I guess my point of aim and shot the upper six shot group.  I then shot several at the 500 meter berm to check out the BDC and the two in the center is when I returned to the 100 meter target.  The outlyer at the top is from another rifle.


7/12/2010 4:07:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
.223 Hornady reloading data
55g V-max
Winchester WSR primer
COAL 2.250''

H335 start load 20.8g @2800fps
       Max load  23.2g @3100fps  


I just checked mine and thats what mine says too, but I've scoured the internet and it seems like the max is WAY higher for 55gr stuff. I think its around 26.0gr

So far i have worked up to
55gr V-Max
CCI 450
COAL 2.260"

So far the 24.0 and 24.5gr of H335 are the most accurrate, no pressure signs.

For some reason every group i shoot the first shot is almost 1" away from the other rounds.
7/12/2010 4:46:29 PM EDT
[#9]
25.7 gr with a 55gr bullet... I've gone up to 26.1 gr
7/12/2010 5:09:03 PM EDT
[#10]
24.5gr. with any 55gr you want has always worked for me.
7/12/2010 5:29:34 PM EDT
[#11]
Remember that Vmax bullets are softer and have more bearing surface than FMJ or SP bullets and that can increase pressure.  I had pressure signs at 25.0 grains of H335.  I would not go over 25.0 with Vmax bullets.  Hornady's data is way to conservative, though.  I typically use 24.0-24.5 grains of H335.
7/12/2010 9:28:40 PM EDT
[#12]



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.223 Hornady reloading data

55g V-max

Winchester WSR primer

COAL 2.250''



H335 start load 20.8g @2800fps

       Max load  23.2g @3100fps  




I just checked mine and thats what mine says too, but I've scoured the internet and it seems like the max is WAY higher for 55gr stuff. I think its around 26.0gr



So far i have worked up to

55gr V-Max

CCI 450

COAL 2.260"



So far the 24.0 and 24.5gr of H335 are the most accurrate, no pressure signs.



For some reason every group i shoot the first shot is almost 1" away from the other rounds.

If you compare the Hornady #7 and the Speer manuals, the Hornady data is on the lighter side for sure.

In the Speer manual for 55g, it lists 28g as the max I believe for w748.  I have been using 27.5 with no problems.





 
7/13/2010 3:40:48 AM EDT
[#13]
My 16" Frankenrifle likes 25gr behind the Hornady 55gr bulk bullet.


It loves 23.5gr, but that short strokes some times.
7/13/2010 6:46:24 AM EDT
[#14]
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Quoted:
Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks


You can find a good starting load by consulting reloading data (there's lots on line) for similar bullets if you can't find data for the bullet you want to shoot.

The maximum load you'll have to determine on your own, although the published data will hint at that load, too.

That's just the way it is with reloading, there's no way around the problem.





Except when you have to play hide and seek - as with Hornady - taking all the load data off the site when they "re-did it."

So now - just go drop $30 on the book?
7/13/2010 7:29:15 AM EDT
[#15]
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Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks


You can find a good starting load by consulting reloading data (there's lots on line) for similar bullets if you can't find data for the bullet you want to shoot.

The maximum load you'll have to determine on your own, although the published data will hint at that load, too.

That's just the way it is with reloading, there's no way around the problem.





Except when you have to play hide and seek - as with Hornady - taking all the load data off the site when they "re-did it."

So now - just go drop $30 on the book?


Either that, or use data for similar components.

The latest Hornady manual should be on everyone's shelf anyway.  It's an excellent manual that sets the bar high for the other companies.

7/13/2010 7:49:05 AM EDT
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Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks


You can find a good starting load by consulting reloading data (there's lots on line) for similar bullets if you can't find data for the bullet you want to shoot.

The maximum load you'll have to determine on your own, although the published data will hint at that load, too.

That's just the way it is with reloading, there's no way around the problem.





Except when you have to play hide and seek - as with Hornady - taking all the load data off the site when they "re-did it."

So now - just go drop $30 on the book?


Either that, or use data for similar components.

The latest Hornady manual should be on everyone's shelf anyway.  It's an excellent manual that sets the bar high for the other companies.



OMG this project suffers "scope creep" and OK - I am in for the Hornady book now I guess.  less than a deductible at the ER I keep telling myself.  That is wearing thin with the wife though . . .
7/13/2010 7:53:36 AM EDT
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Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks


You can find a good starting load by consulting reloading data (there's lots on line) for similar bullets if you can't find data for the bullet you want to shoot.

The maximum load you'll have to determine on your own, although the published data will hint at that load, too.

That's just the way it is with reloading, there's no way around the problem.





Except when you have to play hide and seek - as with Hornady - taking all the load data off the site when they "re-did it."

So now - just go drop $30 on the book?


Either that, or use data for similar components.

The latest Hornady manual should be on everyone's shelf anyway.  It's an excellent manual that sets the bar high for the other companies.



OMG this project suffers "scope creep" and OK - I am in for the Hornady book now I guess.  less than a deductible at the ER I keep telling myself.  That is wearing thin with the wife though . . .


Just be aware that all the data listed shows only Hornady bullets.  

7/13/2010 7:55:42 AM EDT
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Hey guys,

I'm going load some 55gn V-max for my 1:8 Shilen to get rid of some groundhogs and Coyotes on the farm. I can't find any data from hornady or Hodgdon on min and max loads for H335 and the 55gn V-Max. Since I don't care to destroy my gun or myself, I would appreciate some feedback on a good starting load and what weight I should start to worry about too much pressure.

Thanks


You can find a good starting load by consulting reloading data (there's lots on line) for similar bullets if you can't find data for the bullet you want to shoot.

The maximum load you'll have to determine on your own, although the published data will hint at that load, too.

That's just the way it is with reloading, there's no way around the problem.





Except when you have to play hide and seek - as with Hornady - taking all the load data off the site when they "re-did it."

So now - just go drop $30 on the book?


Either that, or use data for similar components.

The latest Hornady manual should be on everyone's shelf anyway.  It's an excellent manual that sets the bar high for the other companies.



OMG this project suffers "scope creep" and OK - I am in for the Hornady book now I guess.  less than a deductible at the ER I keep telling myself.  That is wearing thin with the wife though . . .


Just be aware that all the data listed shows only Hornady bullets.  



Gee I never would guess any reloading manual would be so lacking
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