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7/5/2008 3:07:02 PM EDT
I need some suggestions for a new rifle.  I want a Semi-Auto Rifle to use for long range shooting.  I want to shoot 500 yards accurately.  Either .308 or .223.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.  
7/5/2008 5:28:16 PM EDT
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=247679



From your links, I guess you are saying that I need a .308 for that distance.
7/6/2008 12:41:42 AM EDT
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From your links, I guess you are saying that I need a .308 for that distance.


It's going to be a lot easier with a .308, but it's not required.
7/6/2008 8:31:54 AM EDT
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From your links, I guess you are saying that I need a .308 for that distance.


Not that you can't shoot out to 500 with 5.56, but 7.62x51 is less affected by the environment.

Don't get me wrong, I have a precision 5.56 rig and several "service rifle" type 5.56, but for shooting at distance, the heavier round is less affected and more effective.

My 5.56 are for home defense, room clearing, etc, but I could also use my AR10A4 carbine for those as well.
7/6/2008 10:23:53 AM EDT
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KAC SR-25
7/6/2008 12:00:19 PM EDT
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AR-10T
7/6/2008 6:37:37 PM EDT
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KAC SR-25


Can you actually get one and aren't they about $8000?
7/6/2008 7:22:23 PM EDT
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I'm partial to my MOA $900 DPMS LR308

7/6/2008 9:10:57 PM EDT
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What about a 6.8 AR?  Ithink they should be able to do 500 yards easier than 5.56 and all you'd need is a new upper and magazines unless you want a complete rifle.  
7/6/2008 9:23:51 PM EDT
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KAC SR-25


Can you actually get one and aren't they about $8000?


Sure

But for the money, I think you're better off with a DPMS LR-308 with the A3 type upper and a nice cut-rifled barrel installed by a quality custom smith (GAP).

My first precision rifle was a DPMS. Good gun, but it only made me want a bolt. I didn't shoot fast enough to need the semi-auto, and a bolt is easier to reload for and more consistant.

Still, I think a gas gun is a good tool for a medium range, target rich environment and I'm not about to sell my DPMS.
7/7/2008 7:46:25 AM EDT
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M1A
AR-10
7/7/2008 7:16:27 PM EDT
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KAC SR-25


Can you actually get one and aren't they about $8000?


Sure

But for the money, I think you're better off with a DPMS LR-308 with the A3 type upper and a nice cut-rifled barrel installed by a quality custom smith (GAP).

My first precision rifle was a DPMS. Good gun, but it only made me want a bolt. I didn't shoot fast enough to need the semi-auto, and a bolt is easier to reload for and more consistant.

Still, I think a gas gun is a good tool for a medium range, target rich environment and I'm not about to sell my DPMS.


Just curious, why do DPMS and others call their flattops A3?
7/7/2008 8:44:41 PM EDT
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Just curious, why do DPMS and others call their flattops A3?


From Wikipedia (so take it for what it's worth):

"This misunderstanding most likely stems from the usage of the A2 and A3 designations by Colt and other manufacturers of weapons before the official adoption of the M16A4. Many manufacturers of civilian AR15 rifles designate variants with flat top confirmations as "A3" rather than "A4." Colt used the "A3" designation in the hopes of winning military contracts"

Seems a reasonable explination for me.
7/7/2008 9:23:49 PM EDT
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AR-10 would be my choice
7/7/2008 9:59:01 PM EDT
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DPMS LR-308
7/7/2008 10:11:22 PM EDT
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Get a steel receivered HK91 clone and rebarrel that sucker with a 24incher and weld renforcement plates on it

The mother to end all mothers
7/7/2008 10:17:31 PM EDT
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What about a 6.8 AR?  Ithink they should be able to do 500 yards easier than 5.56 and all you'd need is a new upper and magazines unless you want a complete rifle.  


6.8 drops off pretty bad after 300 yards.
7/8/2008 3:40:26 AM EDT
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What about a 6.8 AR?  Ithink they should be able to do 500 yards easier than 5.56 and all you'd need is a new upper and magazines unless you want a complete rifle.  


6.8 drops off pretty bad after 300 yards.


Stop that!  Introducing facts into the 6.8 hysteria.  How dare you!
7/8/2008 7:09:17 AM EDT
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What about a 6.8 AR?  Ithink they should be able to do 500 yards easier than 5.56 and all you'd need is a new upper and magazines unless you want a complete rifle.  


6.8 drops off pretty bad after 300 yards.


Stop that!  Introducing facts into the 6.8 hysteria.  How dare you!


Imagine my disappointment when I built a 18" 6.8 and then found that out.
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