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Posted: 12/12/2008 11:30:39 AM EDT
| Where could a man go about buying a real M14? |
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There are about six for sale on subguns.com right now.
FWIW, there are four types of transferable M14s: ––USGI M14s built on cut receivers –– they were torch-cut into scrap, then welded back up again and reassembled with new parts kits. The reweld quality varies; I've seen some excellent ones, and others ... well, I would not shoot them under any circumstances. You really need to be an educated buyer if you want one of these. Right now they are advertised in the $11k-13k price range. ––Springfield Armory M1A/M14s. These are factory guns built as MGs with new SA milspec FA receivers and USGI parts kits. I trust these more than unknown rewelds, but some buyers insist on USGI. Prices are $10k-12k. ––There are a very few transferable aftermarket conversions on commercial semi receivers. These are pretty rare, and also vary in quality. Not enough of a sampling to estimate price. ––Finally, there are a very, very few uncut original USGI M14s out there. A bunch came out of H&R when they folded; the rest each have a story. The U.S. military never officially released these for sale as transferable MGs, so most are awards guns or former museum pieces. Prices start in the low $20k range and go up from there. Warning: Some sellers have tried to pass off the better-quality rewelds as uncut originals, so again, you need to know what to look for. A final note: If you're buying this to shoot and not just admire on the wall, consider a Beretta BM59. They look much like 14's but are much more comfortable to shoot, and more accurate in full-auto. These were made by Springfield Armory on new imported Beretta parts kits. Prices range from $9k to $11k. Hope this is of help. 
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A final note: If you're buying this to shoot and not just admire on the wall, consider a Beretta BM59. They look much like 14's but are much more comfortable to shoot, and more accurate in full-auto. These were made by Springfield Armory on new imported Beretta parts kits. Prices range from $9k to $11k. The BM-59 looks like an M-14, but is actually closely related to the M1 Garand - world.guns.ru/assault/as54-e.htm |
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A final note: If you're buying this to shoot and not just admire on the wall, consider a Beretta BM59. They look much like 14's but are much more comfortable to shoot, and more accurate in full-auto. These were made by Springfield Armory on new imported Beretta parts kits. Prices range from $9k to $11k. The BM-59 looks like an M-14, but is actually closely related to the M1 Garand - world.guns.ru/assault/as54-e.htm Correct. I suspect that somewhere in that design difference is the reason the BM59 shoots so much smoother. A much better FH/compensator mades a tremendous difference, too. |
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At the top would be USGI.
Next the Smith receivers. Next a Norrell reweld. Whoever did Mr Norrells welding was VERY good and they had proper heat treatment. Lower is the cast Springfield Inc cast receivers. They are not MilSpec to my knowledge. Then the others. And yes I sold my Winchester. It was a bitch for me to shoot. I am a wimp I guess. CP |
| But I'd suggest before bending the brain too much you shoot one. In fact, shooting any 7.62x51 'assault rifle' (which it technically isn't) is quite an experience. It is something you could do once and not have to do again for a very long while. The minumum weight for a controllable 7.62 rifle I'd guess at 15lbs. The L2A1 is a handful and the 7.62x51 L4 BREN not that much better. |
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Thanks for the info.
Its about time for the yearly machinegun purchase and trying to figure out what to get. The BM 59 looks neat. Why is the M14 so looked down on in automatic? Its weight? I always use bags or a bipod when shooting an M1a, rarely without. With the M2 bipod was the thing that uncontrollable? There is no way to slow down the ROF is there. |
I have a factory Springfield Armory, Inc. select fire M1A, NFA Registered of course. 
My select fire M1A just got rebarreled for the second time. I keep wearing the barrels out.  It has an investment cast receiver but it runs like a thoroughbred. Point being, it does just fine.
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Thanks for the info. Its about time for the yearly machinegun purchase and trying to figure out what to get. The BM 59 looks neat. Why is the M14 so looked down on in automatic? Its weight? I always use bags or a bipod when shooting an M1a, rarely without. With the M2 bipod was the thing that uncontrollable? There is no way to slow down the ROF is there. Yearly machinegun purchase, huh. You lucky dog  .
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Dennis Todd has one for sale.
E-mail: [email protected] Dane |
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DIFFERENT...i put 12,000 rounds thru a Springfield semi.... hard. one time smoking the handgaurd after dumping 13 mags. a little slower then FA, but still pretty hard. and it gauges under 1 its a H/R barrel. Though anecdotal, your experience and mine shows that the M14/M1A platform is robust. Between my semi-auto and select fire M14/M1A rifles, I know I have fired over 12,000 rounds. The only part to fail was a firing pin that broke at the tip.
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| I've done my share of magazine dumps with the select fire M1A. I've also shot it offhand, kneeling and prone and with and without the M2 bipod. IME, the best way to shoot it is in M14A1 configuration from the prone using two to three round bursts. In that fashion, it will serve its purpose as an automatic rifle. |
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