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Posted: 5/23/2011 2:06:18 PM EDT
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Can someone tell me the differences between the Standard and the Loaded? Is one better than the other? Will one last longer than the other?
Thanks, Joe |
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http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php Educate yourself it will stick better than me telling you.
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Okay, I see it now thanks. Do you think a standard is a good gun? Is it worth $1400. I almost bought one today but I think I'm going back tomorrow and pick it up. I have a loaded standard and my buddy has a standard. The NM trigger is leaps and bounds over the GI standard trigger. I shoot tighter groups with my loaded too. I would have just bought a standard but I actually found the loaded for less. I'm much happier with the loaded. |
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Okay, I see it now thanks. Do you think a standard is a good gun? Is it worth $1400. I almost bought one today but I think I'm going back tomorrow and pick it up. I have a loaded standard and my buddy has a standard. The NM trigger is leaps and bounds over the GI standard trigger. I shoot tighter groups with my loaded too. I would have just bought a standard but I actually found the loaded for less. I'm much happier with the loaded. But don't they both have the 2 stage military trigger? Is that what is on yours? Also, what is the loaded standard? Thanks for clearing this up for me |
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I feel if a person was interested in buying a loaded they should have went with the NM to have "no regrets" To me the loaded is half ass. it gives you some nm stuff, but doesn't accurize it. So them features are basically useless and any accuracy gain seen between the loaded and standard is more coincidence than anything. Also I've noticed the receivers as of late looked to have more machine marks in anything less than a nm, and not looking as nice. That is my thoughts on that.
Between the two the std and the loaded take your pick. I had a loaded and hated it. It had terrible accuracy. I stripped it down to it's receiver which was a good one, I kept it's GI parts and rebuilt it into what SAi markets as their M21 configuration. The NM trigger was for shit, and at the time you could buy the M25 trigger group so I have that in mine. Between GI, SEI, Sadlak parts, and a Krieger barrel all steel bedded on it's stock. Now there is absolutely "no regrets.". |
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I've had two Loaded rifles and both are tack drivers. In my opinion, it's worth the extra money over the standard. I can understand Torment's opinion, being similar with regards to the National Match. It makes sense. But, I still think that the Loaded is probably the best bang for the buck. If you can afford to go NM, that's probably even better.
ETA: I have nothing against the standard and have never owned one. People that have them seem to be satisfied, overall. I just think that the Loaded offers a lot more in the barrel, sights and trigger, for only a little more money. |
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Think I should find a Loaded? Or get the standard? With the amount of money I'm going to be spending, I don't want to have any regrets. Thanks. It depends where you want to be with the rifle. Or what you want it to do. If you want to tinker your way to a NM go with a Loaded. If you want a solid shooter that you will still tinker with to a NM go with a standard. The standard has a regular weight NM barrel (new model standard, not older one with GI barrel) and no other NM upgrades except the front sight. The Loaded comes with a medium weight NM barrel, NM tuned trgger, NM rear (non hooded) rear sight. (smaller peep, for better accuracy) other than that no difference To convert loaded over to a blown NM rifle you will need to add Bedding for stock, unitized gas cylinder, hooded rear sight (hooded rear not necessary tho) I would get the Walnut stock loaded if I was going to eventually NM it. |
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I feel if a person was interested in buying a loaded they should have went with the NM to have "no regrets" To me the loaded is half ass. it gives you some nm stuff, but doesn't accurize it. So them features are basically useless and any accuracy gain seen between the loaded and standard is more coincidence than anything. . . Exactly. Also the so called "NM" trigger on the loaded is not a tuned NM trigger group. It may or may not be any better than a standard. |
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Quoted:BTW would a NM make a good deer rifle and MBR?
Thanks, Joe No. Not as issued. The rear sight aperture is far too small for anything other than shooting paper targets in good light. The NM rifle is suitable for NRA highpower and for bench shooters to sit on their ass and shoot paper. It is not a good field type all around rifle. |
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Quoted:BTW would a NM make a good deer rifle and MBR?
Thanks, Joe No. Not as issued. The rear sight aperture is far too small for anything other than shooting paper targets in good light. The NM rifle is suitable for NRA highpower and for bench shooters to sit on their ass and shoot paper. It is not a good field type all around rifle. Not sure if serious  The m14/m1a design was designed for hunting the most dangerous creature on the planet in ALL field conditions, and it fulfilled that role perfectly until replaced with the m16. While heavy to pack around for hunting it is more than capable of doing the job. Are there better choices, sure but it wont fail if you do your part.
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The original M-14 was not glass bedded and it did not have a tiny aperture that you can not see through during low light conditions. It could be easily field stripped for cleaning and maintenance in the field.
The NM M1a is a target rifle. It is not designed to be an all around field rifle. |
| As said earlier, the NM won't make a great hunter because of the NM sights. It would make sighting an animal pretty difficult. If you go NM and scope it, you're back to not much better than a Loaded with a scope. Although the glass bedding is supposed to make a big difference. I would recommend the loaded. |
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