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Posted: 10/4/2011 11:37:37 AM EDT
| From the bolt rifle thread...I'm wondering about picking up a century modified 308 version. Would this be unwise? Anyone have one? |
Sorry - I believe Century boogered them up royaly. I have one in 7.5 French I bought in new condition for $53 back in the 1990s. And it is quite accurate, plus Privi makes ammo in that caliber now (7.5 French) and you can re-form 6.5x55MM Swede boxer brass into 7.5 Frnch brass in a pinch. |
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Don't. The MAS 36 is fine rifle, and 7.5 French isn't that hard to find. But the conversions were done by Century. The biggest drawback is the had to cut off a small tab the holds the fore end in place. On the 308s, as you shoot them the fore end tends to creep forward. The 308 operates at a higher pressure than the 7.5 French. And, Century has a reputation for using chambering reamers until they are long past their sell by date. Rough chambers are not uncommon.ecoil
I have a MAS in the original caliber. Not a bad rifle. The forward sweep on the bolt is easy enough to master. Buttstock is fairly short, a slip on recoil pad is a useful addition. Sights are very good, one of the better set ups on a mil surp. Recoil isn't bad. |
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I have shot both the Mas36 and the K31. I would have to say the K31 was more accurate and the action was a lot smoother. The brass flying straight up and hitting the range overhang always was fun  In the sense of ARFCOM tradition I say "get both" they really
are great rifles. 7.5X55 Swiss and 7.5X54 French are great rounds. Mike |
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I have shot both the Mas36 and the K31. I would have to say the K31 was more accurate and the action was a lot smoother. The brass flying straight up and hitting the range overhang always was fun In the sense of ARFCOM tradition I say "get both" they really
are great rifles. 7.5X55 Swiss and 7.5X54 French are great rounds. Mike In due time, hopefully. Either rifle uses 308 bullets, correct? |
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I have shot both the Mas36 and the K31. I would have to say the K31 was more accurate and the action was a lot smoother. The brass flying straight up and hitting the range overhang always was fun In the sense of ARFCOM tradition I say "get both" they really
are great rifles. 7.5X55 Swiss and 7.5X54 French are great rounds. Mike In due time, hopefully. Either rifle uses 308 bullets, correct? Yes, a standard .308 bullet is what it uses. The K-31 likes the 150-168 grain. If you reload, the brass for the K-31 can be sized from .284 WIN. |
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I have shot both the Mas36 and the K31. I would have to say the K31 was more accurate and the action was a lot smoother. The brass flying straight up and hitting the range overhang always was fun In the sense of ARFCOM tradition I say "get both" they really
are great rifles. 7.5X55 Swiss and 7.5X54 French are great rounds. Mike I concur with this. The K31 will be more accurate than the MAS. As to the smoothness of the action, many of the MAS-36 rifles here were refurbed before being surplused, and have a thick coat of grey park on all surfaces - including surfaces that weren't supposed to be parked, like the bolt, bolt rails, trigger, sear, etc. This makes the action seem "rough" until it is broken in. If you get a refurbed MAS, spend a weekend watching the first ten minutes of We Were Soldiers, taking potshots at the Viet Minh. By Monday the action should be smooth enough. Something else to note - everyone has a K31. The MAS-36 is a real conversation starter at the range; they're uncommon rifles and their unique appearance definitely draws attention. |
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Ok...so 7.5 or go home. Which should I buy first, the MAS or a K31? Yes on the first point, MAS on the second. I like the super quick action and the fantastic quality of the K-31, but the MAS is the epitome of a bolt action battle rifle. Accurate, rock solid reliable, good sights, a really fast bolt (faster than a Lee Enfield once broken in), short (mostly due to the rear locking lugs), and simple as heck. I've only used the safeties on my bolt actions to verify that they work, so the lack of one on the MAS is no handicap. Someone always approaches me when I have the MAS's out at the range asking "What is that?" The results on paper impress as well. |
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Don't. The MAS 36 is fine rifle, and 7.5 French isn't that hard to find. But the conversions were done by Century. The biggest drawback is the had to cut off a small tab the holds the fore end in place. On the 308s, as you shoot them the fore end tends to creep forward. The 308 operates at a higher pressure than the 7.5 French. And, Century has a reputation for using chambering reamers until they are long past their sell by date. Rough chambers are not uncommon.ecoil I have a MAS in the original caliber. Not a bad rifle. The forward sweep on the bolt is easy enough to master. Buttstock is fairly short, a slip on recoil pad is a useful addition. Sights are very good, one of the better set ups on a mil surp. Recoil isn't bad. Why did they have to do that? I have a 308 mas and have problems with hand-guard moving, can I just get a new stock that has a tab and that will fix it? |
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Don't. The MAS 36 is fine rifle, and 7.5 French isn't that hard to find. But the conversions were done by Century. The biggest drawback is the had to cut off a small tab the holds the fore end in place. On the 308s, as you shoot them the fore end tends to creep forward. The 308 operates at a higher pressure than the 7.5 French. And, Century has a reputation for using chambering reamers until they are long past their sell by date. Rough chambers are not uncommon.ecoil I have a MAS in the original caliber. Not a bad rifle. The forward sweep on the bolt is easy enough to master. Buttstock is fairly short, a slip on recoil pad is a useful addition. Sights are very good, one of the better set ups on a mil surp. Recoil isn't bad. Why did they have to do that? I have a 308 mas and have problems with hand-guard moving, can I just get a new stock that has a tab and that will fix it? The barrel had to be shortened slightly. I've seen mixed results from reattaching the hook, but the .308 rifles will never shoot as well as the 7.5 rifles will. |
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