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4/1/2015 1:50:49 PM EDT
I picked-up this 7.5 MAS 49/56 today. Not a pristine example but the bore is good and there are no defects that you are supposed to look for that I can make out when I tore it down. CAI gun. It came with the accessories. I might have paid a bit much at $375.00 but all I ever seem to come across are the .308 conversions.

Shame they did not replace the buttstock with new wood when the hand guard/forend was replaced but it's solid with no cracks.

It came with 60 rounds of Egyptian surplus 7.5.

4/1/2015 2:13:31 PM EDT
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Looks like a good one. $375 is a great price, I see these for over $500 a lot lately.

The ammo is going to be Syrian and not Egyptian; Egypt didn't use any 7.5 rifles, just .303 and 8mm Mauser ones. The Syrian 7.5 has a reputation for being some of the worst military surplus ammunition available. I wouldn't use it, personally, dirty nasty stuff.

Interestingly enough, while around half of Syria's contract run of MAS-49 rifles got imported into the US, the other half is still kicking around Syria and occasionally you'll see one show up in pictures of the conflict over there.

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4/1/2015 2:56:14 PM EDT
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Looks like a good one. $375 is a great price, I see these for over $500 a lot lately.

The ammo is going to be Syrian and not Egyptian; Egypt didn't use any 7.5 rifles, just .303 and 8mm Mauser ones. The Syrian 7.5 has a reputation for being some of the worst military surplus ammunition available. I wouldn't use it, personally, dirty nasty stuff.


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I just saw haji writing on the box. The boxes sorta reminded me of that nasty-ass Egyptian 9mm that was surplused-off in the 80s. Dirty (and corrosive) as all get-out but it was accurate enough.

Hell it could not be any dirtier than Turk 8mm.

LOL....Now I know why they did not replace the stock. The darn thing has to be relieved properly then pressed back on. I have a stain that matches the front wood (Minwax Gunstock) so I'll just do a on-gun refinish of the buttstock.

Do you know if the 7.5 Privi has hard enough primers so it will not slam fire?


4/1/2015 3:02:55 PM EDT
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I just saw haji writing on the box. The boxes sorta reminded me of that nasty-ass Egyptian 9mm that was surplused-off in the 80s. Dirty (and corrosive) as all get-out but it was accurate enough.

Hell it could not be any dirtier than Turk 8mm.

LOL....Now I know why they did not replace the stock. The darn thing has to be relieved properly then pressed back on. I have a stain that matches the front wood (Minwax Gunstock) so I'll just do a on-gun refinish of the buttstock.

Do you know if the 7.5 Privi has hard enough primers so it will not slam fire?


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Looks like a good one. $375 is a great price, I see these for over $500 a lot lately.

The ammo is going to be Syrian and not Egyptian; Egypt didn't use any 7.5 rifles, just .303 and 8mm Mauser ones. The Syrian 7.5 has a reputation for being some of the worst military surplus ammunition available. I wouldn't use it, personally, dirty nasty stuff.




I just saw haji writing on the box. The boxes sorta reminded me of that nasty-ass Egyptian 9mm that was surplused-off in the 80s. Dirty (and corrosive) as all get-out but it was accurate enough.

Hell it could not be any dirtier than Turk 8mm.

LOL....Now I know why they did not replace the stock. The darn thing has to be relieved properly then pressed back on. I have a stain that matches the front wood (Minwax Gunstock) so I'll just do a on-gun refinish of the buttstock.

Do you know if the 7.5 Privi has hard enough primers so it will not slam fire?




I've read mixed reports, but I personally have not experienced any slam fires from Prvi 7.5 in my MAS-49. If it worries you just get an extra firing pin and blunt it a bit. I've got a bunch of spare MAS-49 firing pins, they're cheap and common.

The French were not keen on soldiers taking apart rifles in the field and took pains to prevent them from doing so.
4/1/2015 3:40:48 PM EDT
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I've read mixed reports, but I personally have not experienced any slam fires from Prvi 7.5 in my MAS-49. If it worries you just get an extra firing pin and blunt it a bit. I've got a bunch of spare MAS-49 firing pins, they're cheap and common.

The French were not keen on soldiers taking apart rifles in the field and took pains to prevent them from doing so.
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Looks like a good one. $375 is a great price, I see these for over $500 a lot lately.

The ammo is going to be Syrian and not Egyptian; Egypt didn't use any 7.5 rifles, just .303 and 8mm Mauser ones. The Syrian 7.5 has a reputation for being some of the worst military surplus ammunition available. I wouldn't use it, personally, dirty nasty stuff.




I just saw haji writing on the box. The boxes sorta reminded me of that nasty-ass Egyptian 9mm that was surplused-off in the 80s. Dirty (and corrosive) as all get-out but it was accurate enough.

Hell it could not be any dirtier than Turk 8mm.

LOL....Now I know why they did not replace the stock. The darn thing has to be relieved properly then pressed back on. I have a stain that matches the front wood (Minwax Gunstock) so I'll just do a on-gun refinish of the buttstock.

Do you know if the 7.5 Privi has hard enough primers so it will not slam fire?




I've read mixed reports, but I personally have not experienced any slam fires from Prvi 7.5 in my MAS-49. If it worries you just get an extra firing pin and blunt it a bit. I've got a bunch of spare MAS-49 firing pins, they're cheap and common.

The French were not keen on soldiers taking apart rifles in the field and took pains to prevent them from doing so.


Yeah I got two FPs and a extractor in one of the little pouches.

Oddly enough in that mess of stuff was a complete Hungarian Mosin cleaning kit. Don't know how that got there in the mix.

BTW....What did they use for a cleaning rod? There does not seem to be a place on-board for one.
4/1/2015 3:48:13 PM EDT
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They used a pull through. I see you got at least part of the 49/56 cleaning kit, though I can't tell if you got the pull-through or not. It's just a length of cord.
4/1/2015 5:03:07 PM EDT
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Prvi does not slam fire in my 2 -49/56's or the -49. It did in another -49/56 that I sold, so be sure to test the gun first. If it does, shortening the firing pin by .5mm and making sure the tip is flat will take care of the issue.

The examples in 7.5 have been hovering around $500 since I bought my first in 2007, so you did well.

What's the serial number prefix letter?
4/1/2015 5:53:52 PM EDT
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Don't love the stock but still seems like a steal to me
4/1/2015 6:07:32 PM EDT
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Prvi does not slam fire in my 2 -49/56's or the -49. It did in another -49/56 that I sold, so be sure to test the gun first. If it does, shortening the firing pin by .5mm and making sure the tip is flat will take care of the issue.

The examples in 7.5 have been hovering around $500 since I bought my first in 2007, so you did well.

What's the serial number prefix letter?
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G ... 1960s manufacture I guess.

I own my own range so if it does nobody will be the wiser. Nothing like a runaway rifle at a public range.

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I cleaned/BLOed the front wood and stained/BLOed the buttstock. It turned out OK.


4/2/2015 2:30:58 PM EDT
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I would have jumped all over that at $375.  They've been more than that of late, even without all the accessories.

There has been sporadic availability of some 1950's French-made 7.5x54 surplus in the last year or two...it's corrosive, but all goes bang like it should.

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4/2/2015 7:00:33 PM EDT
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There has been sporadic availability of some 1950's French-made 7.5x54 surplus in the last year or two...it's corrosive, but all goes bang like it should.

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It's some of the more accurate surplus I've come across, but holy crap is it corrosive. Be sure to clean immediately after shooting.

OP, production in the year 1960 started at about G34000. Your rifle has the later trigger group. The yellow leather gear may have a manufacture date earlier than that, but it was only issued beginning in late 1962.

Enjoy shooting it. They are very easy on the shoulder and the wide front sight makes snap shooting easy. Even with that sight, they are very easy to shoot accurately.
4/2/2015 11:05:16 PM EDT
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I actually prefer the look of the 44s and 49s, but that is a pretty good price these days for a 49/56.  Although the stock is a beater, it is at least still in 7.5, instead of the hit or miss 7.62 conversion.

Having my own range would be fantastic!  I have two safes full of guns that would get a lot more exercise if I did.
4/3/2015 1:13:19 PM EDT
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I agree with you on the looks, but that is the only thing the -49 has going (and maybe a marginal edge in accuracy). The -49/56 is a much handier rifle. The -49 is pretty front-heavy. I'm glad I have examples of both.
4/3/2015 9:13:03 PM EDT
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For $375 I would have bought it just to throw on the pile.  Bayonet alone is $80.





4/3/2015 10:19:22 PM EDT
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Great rifles, but the .308 conversions suck.

I think you did real good OP.
4/3/2015 11:49:48 PM EDT
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He stole it, to be honest.
4/4/2015 8:59:16 AM EDT
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I picked up one of these at the Hillsville flea market last fall for $325.  It still had the original wood on it, and it's still in 7.5.  Sometimes getting to the flea market early on the first day has its perks. Wish I had the OP's bayonet though, as has been said, it was a good pickup.
4/4/2015 1:36:53 PM EDT
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I agree, you stole it dude!
Years ago I had a custom titanium firing pin made for one of mine to shoot soft primer reloads. The ammo that was slam firing was the boxes made for the bolt action 7.5's. It was the FNM municoes de armas ligeiras ammo in the baby blue boxes with white clouds that was going full auto. They addressed the problem and started using harder primers. You can tell the difference if you find some nowadays by the spelling. The safe ammo will say 7,5 French Mass on the new boxes, not Mas.
Just treat all MAS49/56's exactly like the M-14/M1a when loading with any ammo. Never drop a round into the chamber, always strip from a mag. I've loaded this way with the PPU brand ammo and have never had a slam with a standard pin.
I won first place with a MAS49/56 in a local military rifle shoot. It's a great battle rifle and a granddaddy to the black rifle we all love.
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