[ARCHIVED THREAD] - MSAR Accuracy

Posted: 7/29/2011 5:42:29 PM EDT

Has anyone scoped out an E-4 with a 10x15 power scope and checked its accuracy potential? Has anyone tried the widget (LBF) from Ratworx and checked how it affects accuracy of the E-4?

Posted: 7/29/2011 4:36:50 PM EDT

[#1]

Try posting this in the Bullpup forum in the Armory, you will get better results

Posted: 7/30/2011 7:35:57 AM EDT

[#2]

There was a thread relevant to your question but it has been archived.

Link

The AUG pattern of rifles was not designed as a bench rest system capable of sub MOA accuracy and not all .223 / 5/56 ammunition is sub MOA either. If I remember correctly, NATO M855 and M193 is about 2 MOA.

From Wikipedia:
A military-issue battle rifle or assault rifle is usually capable of between 3-6 minute of angle (MOA) (1-2 mrad) accuracy. A standard-issue military sniper rifle is typically capable of 1-3 MOA (0.3-1 mrad) accuracy, with a police sniper rifle capable of 0.25-1.5 MOA (0.1-0.5 mrad) accuracy. For comparison, a competition target or benchrest rifle may be capable of accuracy up to 0.15-0.3 MOA (0.05-0.1 mrad).

Posted: 7/30/2011 9:40:45 AM EDT

[#3]

It is definitely not an AR15 in terms of accurancy, but then again it wasnt designed to be as accurate just compact.

Posted: 7/30/2011 11:10:22 AM EDT

[#4]

It's a 2 MOA rifle. Can you get better accuracy out of match grade ammo from the bench with say a 18.5" heavy barrel? Possibly.

I've pulled some very nice 5-shot groups and I've seen some photos here that were pretty impressive.

Posted: 7/30/2011 11:15:00 AM EDT

[#5]

I have two STG's that when scoped and using Prvi Partizan M193 will do honest 10-shot 2" groups at 100yds.
HTH...
Tomac

Posted: 7/30/2011 11:39:41 AM EDT

[#6]

You can try reloading your own ammo to obtain better accuracy as well.

Posted: 7/30/2011 12:51:42 PM EDT

[#7]

I can get 1.5-3.5 with steel case ammo. I do also have the LBF nut on however there is no play in my barrel previous to application. Just got a neu-trigger, I think I can shrink those a little. Scope is a 1-4x30 ACR.

Posted: 7/30/2011 6:21:48 PM EDT

[#8]

I got just under an inch group at 60yds using a 4x acog. Most of the shots were touching the previous ones.

Posted: 7/30/2011 7:14:08 PM EDT

[#9]

I own one, (20" GM barrel, my trigger) and have spent time at the range with a few more that shoot pretty well.

Posted: 7/31/2011 1:18:33 PM EDT

[#10]

Group my Dad shot with his MSAR 16" Gen 1 (Gen 1 is the MSAR with the AR15 forward assist right?)

100 yards with Leupold 2x7 scope and 55gr Ultramax Soft Point ammo

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Posted: 7/31/2011 2:05:51 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Group my Dad shot with his MSAR 16" Gen 1 (Gen 1 is the MSAR with the AR15 forward assist right?)

100 yards with Leupold 2x7 scope and 55gr Ultramax Soft Point ammo

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Damn fine shootin'!

Posted: 7/31/2011 2:11:04 PM EDT

[#12]

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