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8/28/2008 5:19:08 AM EDT
I may sell my AUGa1 it is very early model. It comes w/ box, 5 30 rnd mags, 1 42 rnd, muzzle cap, and sling. It is 99.9 condition, I shot 60 rnds through it. It was unfired when I purchased it. sale price? not sure yet.    
8/28/2008 6:41:24 AM EDT
[#1]
eh... with the new AUGs coming out, it's really not worth that much anymore.... I'll give you $100 shipped.... and that's being generous... where do you want me to send the check?
Matt
8/28/2008 6:52:46 AM EDT
[#2]
ye haw sold to first idiot in line
8/28/2008 8:26:35 AM EDT
[#3]
im not an expert but other pre-bans seem to be going for around 4k
8/28/2008 9:18:42 AM EDT
[#4]
GunBroker is usually a good indicator.  Do an advanced search and select 'completed auctions' to see what things did and didn't go for.
8/28/2008 9:49:22 AM EDT
[#5]
I sold my GSI AUG A1 shortly after I received my STG-556 for $3500 and it was in 85%-90% condition.

If you aren't planning on keeping it I would sell it soon as the price will start to plummet once new production Steyr AUGs that actually say Steyr on the side hit the market.
8/28/2008 11:25:26 AM EDT
[#6]
thats just it I don't want to sell it, but Im gun poor now and I don't want to shoot this one to much. I like the older augs anyway,  this one is dead on at one hundred meters with groups about the size of my fist. If I sell I think I will ask for $3200.00 for it. I always wanted one of these since I can remember. As for the new aug's - you know what they say about a bird in the hand... . Im just glad to see other people who enjoy this special rifle.
8/28/2008 4:02:29 PM EDT
[#7]
ARE YOU GUYS SMOKING CRACK? Have you seem who is running for president? I have seen this before and I am sitting on all of my assault goodies till after the election to finance new NFA toys, its how I got into class 3 stuff in the first place. Don't let go of that 99% gun for a dime less than 4k!
8/28/2008 5:05:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Don't sell guns.

Plus it doesn't look like they're going to be making A1s here.
8/28/2008 7:26:56 PM EDT
[#9]
The argument, "this gun won't go down in value," is used to convince the wife that you are not making a bad financial decision when purchasing a firearm.  You're not ACTUALLY supposed to ever sell the gun.
Matt
8/29/2008 10:54:26 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
ARE YOU GUYS SMOKING CRACK? Have you seem who is running for president? I have seen this before and I am sitting on all of my assault goodies till after the election to finance new NFA toys, its how I got into class 3 stuff in the first place. Don't let go of that 99% gun for a dime less than 4k!


+1  None of my herd will be leaving my fences anytime soon.  
8/29/2008 11:33:34 AM EDT
[#11]
damn ! should I have jumped on this at $1999 ?
8/29/2008 1:45:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Unless they put in the required US parts, it's illegal.  The "thumbhole" is not there.
8/29/2008 4:17:33 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
im not an expert but other pre-bans seem to be going for around 4k


No they don't I have seen VGC A1s going for $2800-3000. Now, IF you are talking NIB with all accessories/unfired, then you may get $3500-3700.
8/29/2008 4:41:53 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Unless they put in the required US parts, it's illegal.  The "thumbhole" is not there.


How ya figure that one?  Modification of an existing part (that does not make the weapon fire more than one round at a time) does not violated 922.  Technically, he could replace the USR stock with an AUG stock to "repair" the dings behind the ejection port since the pistol grip is not "separate" but integrated into the stock.  This law is one of the most poorly understood of all the gun control laws (regardless, it is still unconstitutional).  

922r does not require that all the numbers match as it was imported - the gun just had to have been an assembled gun before 1990 (and the USRs are even exempted from THAT date).  All the special receiver guns were parts guns, and were assembled before 1990...
Matt

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/building_a_firearm.pdf

“It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or
any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under
the…[GCA]…Section 925(d)(3)…as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to
sporting purposes….”
Also, 27 C.F.R. § 478.39 states—
“…(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the
imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from
importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to
sporting purposes…..
2
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed
manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any
department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or (2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun
for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of
[§478.151(formerly 178.151)]; or (3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported
into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any
part of such firearm.
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts [tabulated below] are:
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver
castings, forgings, or castings.
(2) Barrels.
(3) Barrel extensions.
(4) Mounting blocks (trunnions).
(5) Muzzle attachments.
(6) Bolts.
(7) Bolt carriers.
(8) Operating rods.
(9) Gas pistons.
(10) Trigger housings.
(11) Triggers.
(12) Hammers.
(13) Sears.
(14) Disconnectors.
(15) Buttstocks.
(16) Pistol grips.
(17) Forearms, handguards.
(18) Magazine bodies.
(19) Followers.
(20) Floor plates.
As a result of a 1989 study by the U.S. Treasury Department regarding the importability of
certain firearms, an import ban was placed on military-style firearms. This ban included not only
military-type firearms, but also extended to firearms with certain features that were considered to
be “nonsporting.”
Among such nonsporting features were the ability to accept a detachable magazine;
folding/telescoping stocks; separate pistol grips; and the ability to accept a bayonet, flash
suppressors, bipods, grenade launchers, and night sights.
Please note that the foreign parts kits that are sold through commercial means are usually cut up
machineguns, such as Russian AK-47 types, British Sten types, etc. Generally, an acceptable
semiautomatic copy of a machinegun is one that has been significantly redesigned. The receiver
must be incapable of accepting the original fire-control components that are designed to permit
full automatic fire. The method of operation should employ a closed-bolt firing design that
incorporates an inertia-type firing pin within the bolt assembly.
3
Further, an acceptably redesigned semiautomatic copy of nonsporting firearm must be limited to
using less than 10 of the imported parts listed in 27 CFR § 478.39(c). Otherwise, it is considered
to be assembled into a nonsporting configuration per the provisions of 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3) and is
thus a violation of § 922(r).
8/30/2008 10:28:05 AM EDT
[#15]
Yes, 922R is a stupid law and I don't believe it to be Constitutional either.  However, the USR was imported with a thumbhole stock in 1997.

 Remove the thumbhole stock without the required US parts-instant non-importable assault rifle.  The Steyr website states the "USR thumbhole stocks must be used in compliance to the BATF".  
8/30/2008 10:54:35 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Yes, 922R is a stupid law and I don't believe it to be Constitutional either.  However, the USR was imported with a thumbhole stock in 1997.
www.steyr-aug.com/usr.gif
 Remove the thumbhole stock without the required US parts-instant non-importable assault rifle.  The Steyr website states the "USR thumbhole stocks must be used in compliance to the BATF".  


After further investigation, it appears you are correct - though, I think you will be hard pressed to find a cop who knows the difference (I do not avocate violating the law).
Matt
8/30/2008 1:32:38 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Yes, 922R is a stupid law and I don't believe it to be Constitutional either.  However, the USR was imported with a thumbhole stock in 1997.
www.steyr-aug.com/usr.gif
 Remove the thumbhole stock without the required US parts-instant non-importable assault rifle.  The Steyr website states the "USR thumbhole stocks must be used in compliance to the BATF".  


Another glaring example of "tards" in charge.
8/30/2008 2:24:57 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Yes, 922R is a stupid law and I don't believe it to be Constitutional either.  However, the USR was imported with a thumbhole stock in 1997.
www.steyr-aug.com/usr.gif
 Remove the thumbhole stock without the required US parts-instant non-importable assault rifle.  The Steyr website states the "USR thumbhole stocks must be used in compliance to the BATF".  


TPD makes the US parts you need.

From what I understand you can SBR the USR and then swap out the stock, but I'm not the ATF so you would have to confirm that with them.


8/31/2008 12:24:41 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yes, 922R is a stupid law and I don't believe it to be Constitutional either.  However, the USR was imported with a thumbhole stock in 1997.
www.steyr-aug.com/usr.gif
 Remove the thumbhole stock without the required US parts-instant non-importable assault rifle.  The Steyr website states the "USR thumbhole stocks must be used in compliance to the BATF".  


TPD makes the US parts you need.

From what I understand you can SBR the USR and then swap out the stock, but I'm not the ATF so you would have to confirm that with them.



This is correct TPD makes a 922r conversion kit for the USR

SBRing any imported rifle makes 922r moot. (if you live in a gun friendly state, it is often the cheaper way to go for the exotic / rare guns)
9/3/2008 5:35:33 AM EDT
[#20]
as for a3's at or about $2000.00 what kind of optics would you put on you rifle? I have swarovski optics on mine, a foward grip for added control, the ability to go from carbine to squad support weapon in a matter of seconds. And my AUG is an a1. Talk about foward thinking in the seventies, Now down to the brass tacks... if steyr had imported a 100.000 AUG's they would be no more exotic than another Austrian plastic import> Glock. That being said I would like to own an a3, but my first love was the a1's. It is still modern and way ahead of it's time just the way the porsche 928 is today (look at a 1977 Porsche 928). This is just my 2 cents worth, and I really don't want to sell my rifle, but if somthing dont change in my life I may be forced to. thanx    
9/3/2008 11:13:17 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
as for a3's at or about $2000.00 what kind of optics would you put on you rifle? I have swarovski optics on mine, a foward grip for added control, the ability to go from carbine to squad support weapon in a matter of seconds. And my AUG is an a1. Talk about foward thinking in the seventies, Now down to the brass tacks... if steyr had imported a 100.000 AUG's they would be no more exotic than another Austrian plastic import> Glock. That being said I would like to own an a3, but my first love was the a1's. It is still modern and way ahead of it's time just the way the porsche 928 is today (look at a 1977 Porsche 928). This is just my 2 cents worth, and I really don't want to sell my rifle, but if somthing dont change in my life I may be forced to. thanx    


Have you seen the new 1.5x Swarovski optic with the rails?  Kind of has a hexagon look to it. Pretty damn cool looking and we all know how clear the glass is.

The A3 still has a toolless barrel change, but you'll have to pop off the rail first and you have to of course add your own foregrip.  I wouldn't be shocked though if the older barrels will fit the A3 once you take the rail off.  We'll see though.

The A1 is a classic though. It's an important rifle, because as fobzulu points out it was WAY ahead of its time when it came out.

Rifle System in 1977

Translucent Polymer Magazines 1977

Toolless Quick Change Barrel 1977

1.5 Optic as standard in 1977.

Short stroke gas piston system.

Pretty incredible when you think about it and see that only now are we seeing other rifles with these options 30 years later.
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