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7/7/2005 7:28:58 AM EDT
Every time I see a video of someone shooting a mini gun, I wonder to my self, what is the rate of fire on those damn guns!
The ejected bullet casing just pour out the side like a waterfall.

It has to be well over 1500 rounds a minute?

Does anyone know for sure?

http://www.subgunvideos.com/video_gallery/?dir=Rob%20Silvers%20Videos/Minigun/

Also, in almost all the different videos I have seen, they look really quiet and almost no recoil.
I would think the sound of the 308 bullet at 1000+ rds/min would be quite immense?

Looks real smooth to shoot!
7/7/2005 8:16:27 AM EDT
[#1]
IIRC, the rate of fire can be adjusted upwards of 6k rpm per minute.  However, they are normally set around 1500-2000 RPM.

As far as recoil, the guns are all hard mounted.  Recoil isn't an issue when the gun is bolted down.
7/7/2005 8:20:19 AM EDT
[#2]
The original M134 minigun has a selectable ROF, a low rate of 2,000 rpm or high rate of 4000rpm.
7/7/2005 9:35:56 AM EDT
[#3]

...I would think the sound of the 308 bullet at 1000+ rds/min would be quite immense?...



Imagine a chainsaw at full throttle, but at a lower tone,

held up to your ear,

multiplied by 1,000.




Now you START to get the idea....




7/7/2005 2:48:24 PM EDT
[#4]
fIRES SO FAST IT DOESNT SOUND LIKE A GUN, CANT DISTINGUISH A RND FROM THE NEXT RND. sOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE HUMMING REAL LOUD. OOPS left caps on, sorry.
7/7/2005 2:54:04 PM EDT
[#5]
A little practical application..
right-click and go full screen.

www.big-boys.com/articles/iraqfootage.html
7/7/2005 4:13:41 PM EDT
[#6]
IIRC, miniguns rate of fire can be adjusted, but they can go up to about 6000 rounds per minute.

7/7/2005 9:41:38 PM EDT
[#7]
Nominal ROF is around 4000....though it would be very wise to reign them in at around 2000 to 2500.  I suppose it all depends on the platform and purpose of the weapon in question.
7/7/2005 11:10:41 PM EDT
[#8]
I wonder how long it takes to get the copper out of those barrels.
7/8/2005 7:57:06 AM EDT
[#9]
i belive its 6000rpm
7/8/2005 8:03:06 AM EDT
[#10]
I met a guy with a post sample mini.  He said his could be set 4000-6000 RPM.  He kept his at 4000.  I've got video around here somewhere of a 800-round belt he shot in ~12 seconds.  
7/8/2005 8:04:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Wanted to add the guy said the gun would automatically shutoff at like 15 seconds.  Then you just hit the button again.
7/8/2005 9:33:10 AM EDT
[#12]
We have several Aero Dillon 7.62 miniguns mounted on HUMVEEs.  Its a very good devestating and phsyocoigal weapon but lacks the range of the M2 .50 cals.  We keep the cycle rate at 3,000 rpm and thats 50 rounds per SECOND!.  They can go up to 6,000rpm but your consumption rate is huge and then there's the weight factor.  800rds is around 70-75 lbs times X amount.

CD
7/12/2005 8:40:50 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
A little practical application..
right-click and go full screen.

www.big-boys.com/articles/iraqfootage.html



Nothing like some Metallica and mini-guns together.  Only thing better would be some bikini-clad hotties serving the gunner some cold ones.
7/12/2005 9:04:36 AM EDT
[#14]
Don't forget about "The Body" and his mini in Predator!  (Where's the battery?????)
7/12/2005 12:03:33 PM EDT
[#15]
how long do barrels last on these things? I could imagine they wear pretty quickly
7/12/2005 12:26:21 PM EDT
[#16]
i heard 7500 was the celing
7/12/2005 3:05:17 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
We have several Aero Dillon 7.62 miniguns mounted on HUMVEEs.  Its a very good devestating and phsyocoigal weapon but lacks the range of the M2 .50 cals.  We keep the cycle rate at 3,000 rpm and thats 50 rounds per SECOND!.  They can go up to 6,000rpm but your consumption rate is huge and then there's the weight factor.  800rds is around 70-75 lbs times X amount.

CD



Using wolf ammo it would cost about $7.00 a second to run that thing at 50 rounds per second.
7/12/2005 3:40:56 PM EDT
[#18]
That would be a blast to shoot, but I can't imagine trying to finance that hobby.
7/12/2005 3:46:17 PM EDT
[#19]
My question is - are any privately owned?  If so, how much would one of those fudders cost?  That thing looks bitch firing at night.

Pat

                                                               
7/13/2005 1:37:53 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
My question is - are any privately owned?  If so, how much would one of those fudders cost?  That thing looks bitch firing at night.

Pat

                                                               



the last transferable was like $400,000.
7/13/2005 2:41:50 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
how long do barrels last on these things? I could imagine they wear pretty quickly



They don't last very long, I looked at a few barrels while the  weapons guys were cleaning Mini's off helicopters and most of the barrels had no throat left and most also had no chrome lining left either 2-3" from chamber ! They said when I enquired why they weren't going to replace the bbls that the worn bbls make a larger beaten zone for suppressive fire.
7/13/2005 3:58:43 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
My question is - are any privately owned?


Yes.  

According to Dan Shea (Long Moutain Outfitters), the "educated" estimate is there are 12 transferables in private hands.

Here's one of them,  owned by a gentleman in St Pete, FL.
7/13/2005 4:25:59 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

...I would think the sound of the 308 bullet at 1000+ rds/min would be quite immense?...



Imagine a chainsaw at full throttle, but at a lower tone,

held up to your ear,

multiplied by 1,000.




Now you START to get the idea....







They sound like a giant Dremel tool set to 10,000 RPMs. It's a sound that warms my heart.

7/13/2005 5:10:50 AM EDT
[#24]
Wonder what this sounds like.  

7/13/2005 8:17:14 AM EDT
[#25]
Now that is just plain silly!
18,000 rounds/min!! or 300 rounds/sec!!!
7/13/2005 9:07:09 AM EDT
[#26]
If I change to a Number 28 locking piece will it slow it down ?
7/13/2005 11:27:14 AM EDT
[#27]
It varies with model and caliber but the 5.56mm m134 has an adjustable ROF with a maximum ROF of 6000 RPM.


Thats 100 rounds per second in case you were wondering.


ETA: DOH!

the caliber was a typo, it was supposed to be 7.62, sorry.
7/13/2005 12:01:39 PM EDT
[#28]
The 5.56 version was a research and development project (1970-71) and was designated; XM214. The ROF was adjustable from 2000 to 3000spm (shots per minute).
7/13/2005 12:07:47 PM EDT
[#29]
5.56 version? Would that be a mini-mini-gun? Any of those floating around?
7/13/2005 12:22:15 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
5.56 version? Would that be a mini-mini-gun?


Actually, that's what they called it.
7/13/2005 1:19:31 PM EDT
[#31]
www.big-boys.com/articles/iraqfootage.html

I just watched this video and wondered that the minis had eotechs mounted on top. You can clearly see it in the end of the video.

Simply put ........ NEAT  

Warlord
7/13/2005 2:58:41 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
5.56 version? Would that be a mini-mini-gun? Any of those floating around?



It was marketed as the "GE Six-Pack".  Tested as the XM214.  They had it set up on a tripod with a battery pack, and the various other usual mounts.  It was aimed at primarily a perimeter defense deal.  

GE made a model in just about every size, shape, caliber and operating system.  The first was the Vulcan 20mm.  The second was the 7.62, which was a miniature version, and why it's called a "mini-gun".  For a time they offered a 20mm that ran off it's own gas pressure so it didn't need any electircal stuff.  I don't remember the ROF, but I can look it up.  It was for gunpods that didn't have an external power source.   Most of the USAF gunpods use a turbine to provide power to the gun.  That allows you to mount the pod on a normal hardpoint without a power cable, and avoid the weight of batteries.  The "self-propelled" one was for slower aircarft that couldn't generate enough power.  There were still a bunch of those around in the 60's and 70's.

The mini-gun system on the old "M" model Huey's had a mini-gun on each side.  You could select 2000 or 4000.  On the 2000rpm setting, if you were shooting off to the side and one gun tracked inboard enough, it would shut down (so you didn't shoot up yourself) and the ROF on the other gun would double to 4000 to make up for the loss of the other gun automatically.

Ross
7/13/2005 3:07:58 PM EDT
[#33]
We need those damned terrorists to get the idea that there are a respectable number of these great
firearms in private civilian hands here in America.    Maybe give them the impression that it's a common thing, even.

It might make them decide to reconsider.


CJ
7/13/2005 5:17:31 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
i belive its 6000rpm



I'd still opt for the A-10's 30mm at a mere 4200 RPM.....
7/13/2005 8:54:46 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i belive its 6000rpm



I'd still opt for the A-10's 30mm at a mere 4200 RPM.....



And all this time I've been thinking my .45 and my 12 ga were ideal for home defense, when that's what I really need, the 30 mm off of the A-10. Silly me!! how
7/13/2005 11:42:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Here's a few shots of ours on the range and down range.




Here's an actually photo in use.


CD

Edited to add these where built by Dillion Aero
7/14/2005 12:33:09 AM EDT
[#37]
I think that Mike Dillon said he had 2 pre 86 transferables in his collection. I've seen one and it is an original GE. I guess he's keeping the two originals for if and when he stops his SOT and retires. He'll still have a couple of miniguns to play with.

I've ran blanks through a late production Dillon model a few years ago at the shop.

Hell, Mike refuses to sell any post 86 samples to anybody, even if they are qualified. Domestic Mil sales and gov't export only. You'll never see one on Sheriff Joe's APC or Howitzer, thank God. I doubt he'll ever sell any to LE, even though there will be depts trying to justify it.

You guys should see his quad M2 50BMG set up. That is awesome.
7/14/2005 10:46:19 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

You guys should see his quad M2 50BMG set up. That is awesome.



Do you have a link?
7/14/2005 10:58:55 AM EDT
[#39]


The ones I've been around (helicopter mounted) were generally switchable between 2000 and 4000 rpm.  Many of the old motors are becoming unserviceable, and new motor/controller setups typically are set to run at 3000 rpm.


7/14/2005 11:23:29 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

You guys should see his quad M2 50BMG set up. That is awesome.



Do you have a link?





www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_50cal-M2_MG_pics.htm


Not his, but looks like this. I've seen his where the barrels were bright red from heat.
7/14/2005 2:43:20 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Wonder what this sounds like.  

photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=766&iGalleryUnq=32&iImageUnq=39835




That setup is responsible for killing a young girl at Knob Creek a few years back..
7/14/2005 2:53:42 PM EDT
[#42]
That seems a little Over Kill for just one little girl.


A mob of several hundred little girls I could see....


7/14/2005 8:02:47 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wonder what this sounds like.  

photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?sAccountUnq=766&iGalleryUnq=32&iImageUnq=39835




That setup is responsible for killing a young girl at Knob Creek a few years back..



Yes, the gun was responsible for the girls death.  
7/14/2005 8:55:41 PM EDT
[#44]
The guns or the shooter was responsible??
7/14/2005 11:29:11 PM EDT
[#45]
I guess you could say both.


In 1995 a 13-year-old girl was killed at the Knob Creek shoot when the quarter-ton machine gun she was firing fell on her, crushing her skull. Sumner Jr. said it was a "freak accident" that hasn't stopped other young people, or that girl's father, from attending the event. Bullitt County detective Steve Estes couldn't recall any major problems at the shoot, which is in his department's jurisdiction.

7/15/2005 6:56:02 AM EDT
[#46]


In 1995 a 13-year-old girl was killed at the Knob Creek shoot when the quarter-ton machine gun she was firing fell on her, crushing her skull. Sumner Jr. said it was a "freak accident" that hasn't stopped other young people, or that girl's father, from attending the event. Bullitt County detective Steve Estes couldn't recall any major problems at the shoot, which is in his department's jurisdiction.




7/15/2005 7:18:33 AM EDT
[#47]
I wonder how it fell over?  In any case I bet that sucker (and every other super heavy piece of equipment out at knob creek) is heavily secured and inspected since that incident.  

Damn shame for the kid.  
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