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8/8/2012 11:27:54 AM EDT
If I have a factory sbr and a carbine 16".  Can I have multiple sbr uppers, our do I need a registered lower for each if my sbr uppers?
8/8/2012 11:39:06 AM EDT
[#1]
This comes up frequently here and the most common answer I see is "you're okay as long as you have at least one non-NFA upper for every non-NFA lower"... IOW, no standard AR lowers without a corresponding upper alongside "extra" short-barreled uppers.



I'd rather be safe than sorry, I change AR uppers/configurations all the time, and basic lowers are cheap... so I personally keep enough extra pistol lowers on hand that all of my extra short uppers have a "home" when not on one of my SBR lowers. Works for me, but YMMV.



8/8/2012 11:46:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Dang, what if I get ris of my 16, and only my sbr lower, then have 3 uppers.
8/8/2012 11:58:40 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
This comes up frequently here and the most common answer I see is "you're okay as long as you have at least one non-NFA upper for every non-NFA lower"... IOW, no standard AR lowers without a corresponding upper alongside "extra" short-barreled uppers.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, I change AR uppers/configurations all the time, and basic lowers are cheap... so I personally keep enough extra pistol lowers on hand that all of my extra short uppers have a "home" when not on one of my SBR lowers. Works for me, but YMMV.



I personally find this confusing. What the ATF wants is that you don't have extra SBR uppers that you could potentially put on a non-SBR lower (constructive intent). If you have an SBR lower, you may have as many SBR uppers as you'd like. You only need to register the SBR lower, not each upper. However, I have heard that you should return the SBR lower to the configuration you reported to the ATF when you put it away, or notify the ATF of a permanent configuration change if you do that. Although I don't believe that is mandatory, it couldn't hurt. As for having extra uppers laying around, I disagree with what HardShell said about non-NFA stuff. Each SBR upper you have should be on a PISTOL lower when not in use, if you have non-SBR lowers around. Make sure that lower was transfered as a pistol. Therefore, it is legally a pistol and the short barrel upper doesn't make it an illegal SBR. You can have as many non-SBR uppers laying around as you want, those don't matter. Non-SBR lowers should have a non-NFA upper on them though just to be cautious.

In short, you don't need to register SBR uppers and can have as many as you want. If you only have one lower and it's a registered SBR, then you're clear. As soon as you pick up a non-SBR lower, all SBR uppers need PISTOL or SBR lowers on them. Basically you don't want parts floating that the ATF could construe as constructive intent.
8/8/2012 12:13:16 PM EDT
[#4]




Quoted:



... As for having extra uppers laying around, I disagree with what HardShell said about non-NFA stuff. Each SBR upper you have should be on a PISTOL lower when not in use, if you have non-SBR lowers around...


Unless I am misreading something, you aren't disagreeing with me at all.  That next sentence is exactly what I do with mine, as I described.  



As for "legally a pistol," what it was "transferred as" has little to nothing to do with it (most legal AR pistols out there today were probably transferred as stripped receivers or "other").  It used to simply mean that it had never had a stock installed on the lower, but even that has been broadened somewhat in the past year.
8/8/2012 6:56:09 PM EDT
[#5]
but i can have 1 NFA lower and 3 other uppers if i do not have a NON REG LOWER?
8/8/2012 7:06:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This comes up frequently here and the most common answer I see is "you're okay as long as you have at least one non-NFA upper for every non-NFA lower"... IOW, no standard AR lowers without a corresponding upper alongside "extra" short-barreled uppers.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, I change AR uppers/configurations all the time, and basic lowers are cheap... so I personally keep enough extra pistol lowers on hand that all of my extra short uppers have a "home" when not on one of my SBR lowers. Works for me, but YMMV.



I personally find this confusing. What the ATF wants is that you don't have extra SBR uppers that you could potentially put on a non-SBR lower (constructive intent). If you have an SBR lower, you may have as many SBR uppers as you'd like. You only need to register the SBR lower, not each upper. However, I have heard that you should return the SBR lower to the configuration you reported to the ATF when you put it away, or notify the ATF of a permanent configuration change if you do that. Although I don't believe that is mandatory, it couldn't hurt. As for having extra uppers laying around, I disagree with what HardShell said about non-NFA stuff. Each SBR upper you have should be on a PISTOL lower when not in use, if you have non-SBR lowers around. Make sure that lower was transfered as a pistol. Therefore, it is legally a pistol and the short barrel upper doesn't make it an illegal SBR. You can have as many non-SBR uppers laying around as you want, those don't matter. Non-SBR lowers should have a non-NFA upper on them though just to be cautious.

In short, you don't need to register SBR uppers and can have as many as you want. If you only have one lower and it's a registered SBR, then you're clear. As soon as you pick up a non-SBR lower, all SBR uppers need PISTOL or SBR lowers on them. Basically you don't want parts floating that the ATF could construe as constructive intent.


So say I have one lower registered as a SBR, I can have 4 other SBR upper? No other lower except the ONE REGISTERED lower. One SBR lower with 4 SBR upper, is that legal? And yes that SBR lower is a pimp.

8/8/2012 7:51:42 PM EDT
[#7]
one SBR lower....   many uppers

8/8/2012 8:09:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
one SBR lower....   many uppers

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gurss i need to sell my no fun reg lower, wait on my good times mk18.
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