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Posted: 12/19/2012 3:29:39 PM EDT
Well not actually no primer or powder, fine tuning my press I do have a question though The Hornady book says oac is 2.250 however mine that i made is 2.190 using Remington brass and Hornady 68 grain match BTHP, and no I don't plan on using the brass that the bullet is in, had case and sizer issues :) to which I had to get a pair of pliers to it.
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Quoted: to which I had to get a pair of pliers to it. Get one of these  Get all the other tools under Recommended list here http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=486 If there's a stuck case in your future pliers won't cut it |
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Quoted: Well not actually no primer or powder, fine tuning my press I do have a question though The Hornady book says oac is 2.250 however mine that i made is 2.190 using Remington brass and Hornady 68 grain match BTHP, and no I don't plan on using the brass that the bullet is in, had case and sizer issues :) to which I had to get a pair of pliers to it. http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/2808/20121219182230.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us We call that a dummy round. Keep it and a year from now it will bring back memories. As to OAL. You should seat that bullet to 2.250, just like in the data. First the why, then the how. Why? Mag length is 2.260. If you seat to 2.250, you are insured your round will feed through any mag. Also some rounds will come out a little shorter and some a little longer. Just the way the bullet is made. So 2.250 gives you some tolerance. How? Easy, just adjust the seating stem in the seating die out until you get the desired length. Keep at it, you will get there.
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I wouldn't keep that one. Pull the bullet, scrap the case and make another dummy round at the correct dimentions.
It will help you reset your dies after taking them apart for cleaning. When setting up your seater for the 1st time, you can use any factory round. Back the seater stem out alot, insert the round in the press, raise the ram and hold it there. Turn the stem down till it touches the bullet then back it out a few turns. Put a new case in with bullet on top and seat it. It will be well over max COAL. Just keep turning the stem down in small increments till you get the OAL you want. I have a dummy for every caliber, bullet and seating depth I load for. Also, as said above, use more of or a better lube to prevent stuck cases in the sizer. |
| Looks like you just created something you can sit up on your shelf and look back to! Even though there is no powder or primer in it, you will know it is your first reload. My first reload is a .38 special 158gr LSWC with 3.2 grains of IMR 700X in it. It is downstairs on the hutch. When you do start to load them for real, I agree with everyone else, load the bullet out as far as it will reliably feed through the magazine and gun. |
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I dont use dummy rounds. To me its like doing the same thing twice. I just back the stem out well beyond my intended seating depth, and slowly seat the first round adjusting in small increments as I go until I reach the required depth.
To some it may be quicker to make, and use a dummy round. I just dont like doing things twice for no reason when I can adjust on the fly so easily. To each his own. |
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Quoted: I wouldn't keep that one. Pull the bullet, scrap the case and make another dummy round at the correct dimentions. Reason I suggest keeping it is to look back on his first effort. He will get a good chuckle from it sometime in the future when he learns more about reloading. Not kept as an GTG example. It will help you reset your dies after taking them apart for cleaning. When setting up your seater for the 1st time, you can use any factory round. Back the seater stem out alot, insert the round in the press, raise the ram and hold it there. Turn the stem down till it touches the bullet then back it out a few turns. Put a new case in with bullet on top and seat it. It will be well over max COAL. Just keep turning the stem down in small increments till you get the OAL you want. I have a dummy for every caliber, bullet and seating depth I load for. Also, as said above, use more of or a better lube to prevent stuck cases in the sizer. |
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I dont use dummy rounds. To me its like doing the same thing twice. I just back the stem out well beyond my intended seating depth, and slowly seat the first round adjusting in small increments as I go until I reach the required depth. To some it may be quicker to make, and use a dummy round. I just dont like doing things twice for no reason when I can adjust on the fly so easily. To each his own. I do this as well. It's easier to adjust the bullet to seat deeper than seat it, adjust the seater UP then try again. Following xtreme762 you'll be able to seat it deeper without pulling the bullet. It works for pistol calibers too. |
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Yeah, I know what you meant, dryflash.
I keep some of them as reminders of what not to do, but my thought was he might be more proud to show off his 1st effort at reloading if it was a good round. I have the 1st two rounds I ever loaded ( 45 Colt) in the carry case with the matching SAA pistols they were loaded for. Everytime I ''pull them pistols'' someone asks why I have those 2 bullets. Me: 
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Quoted: Yeah, I know what you meant, dryflash. I keep some of them as reminders of what not to do, but my thought was he might be more proud to show off his 1st effort at reloading if it was a good round. I have the 1st two rounds I ever loaded ( 45 Colt) in the carry case with the matching SAA pistols they were loaded for. Everytime I ''pull them pistols'' someone asks why I have those 2 bullets. Me: So you are saying keep the first rounds you load that you are proud of? |
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I'm not sure what you mean, but by being very careful with my 1st rounds it just turned out that they were good ones. And, yes, I'm proud of them. Have to end the hijack of this thread. Agreed.Need OP to come back in this thread. Agreed.His choice what to keep.Agreed.  |
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I'm not sure what you mean, but by being very careful with my 1st rounds it just turned out that they were good ones. And, yes, I'm proud of them. Have to end the hijack of this thread. Agreed.Need OP to come back in this thread. Agreed.His choice what to keep.Agreed. Sorry guys meet has been out I reloaded my first 50 .223 using Remington brass cci small rifle 68 grain hornady bthp and 24 grains of varget I'll upload pics later and a range report on average my col is 2.25 - 2.246 not bad for a first batch |
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