My SHTF set up! > General Firearm Discussion

Posted: 4/13/2006 11:50:21 PM EDT

I live in California where no AR-AK is allowed

That's why I bought a kel-tecCA model with bull barrel mixed with AK-74 flash/brake, M-6 laser/flashlight, Eotech and some 5.56mm SS109/m855 backed by a Glock 21ACP 45 with +P golden sabers and serrated to the tip spyderco
p.s LOOK CLOSE AT THE KELTEC IT HOLDS ANOTHER 30 ROUND IN THE STOCK
This will work for me!

It's the closes thing to an AR15 here in California same bolt as an AR savage like barrel with Ak-74 gas tube and flash/muzzle brake
Like I said it’s not an AR but it's very accurate dependable and super light.
I have shot anywhere from 1-3 moa even when hot, my Mini 14 and SKS can never do that.
I have fired over 500 rounds with no jam and works great during rapid fire. for all you that have ARs with 1/2 by28 get this www.bushmaster.com/shopping/brakes/mmt-0012a.asp

You will thank me later

Posted: 4/14/2006 4:58:15 AM EDT

[#1]

Looks good. What type of mag are you using?

Posted: 4/14/2006 6:33:51 AM EDT

[#2]

Yeah. Mean weapon for where you are.

Posted: 4/14/2006 7:26:42 AM EDT

[#3]

Ugly as all hell, but if its reliable and accurate who cares when it really matters right?

Posted: 4/14/2006 7:27:42 AM EDT

[#4]

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Looks good. What type of mag are you using?

Bushsmaster green

Posted: 4/14/2006 7:28:17 AM EDT

[#5]

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Yeah. Mean weapon for where you are.

I know I wish I could have bought an AR

Posted: 4/14/2006 7:28:54 AM EDT

[#6]

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Ugly as all hell, but if its reliable and accurate who cares when it really matters right?

.223 is .223

Posted: 4/14/2006 7:29:00 AM EDT

[#7]

Creativity behind the lines. Good job.

Posted: 4/14/2006 7:38:30 AM EDT

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Creativity behind the lines. Good job.

lol is that why you picked the rocket launcher?

Posted: 4/14/2006 10:40:08 AM EDT

[#9]

great setup, especialy for wear you are.

BUT...

you can never go without a rocket launcher. better safe then sorry.

Posted: 4/14/2006 10:44:48 AM EDT

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great setup, especialy for wear you are.

BUT...

you can never go without a rocket launcher. better safe then sorry.

I saw one at WalMart but I am waiting for it to go on sale.

Posted: 4/14/2006 11:04:46 AM EDT

[#11]

Buy an M1A.

Posted: 4/14/2006 11:10:35 AM EDT

[#12]

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Buy an M1A.

For home defense? Too long, too heavy, too much penetration. For home defense purposes, a 5.56 carbine is as good as it gets.

Posted: 4/14/2006 11:13:00 AM EDT

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Yeah. Mean weapon for where you are.

I know I wish I could have bought an AR

thats a mean weapon anywhere. I love it!

Posted: 4/14/2006 11:35:48 AM EDT

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Just an FYI, with the forward grip California considers that an assualt weapon. From the CA DOJ website.

(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

caag.state.ca.us/firearms/genchar.htm

Posted: 4/14/2006 2:08:01 PM EDT

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Just an FYI, with the forward grip California considers that an assualt weapon. From the CA DOJ website.

(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

This picture was taken in Vegas Nevada I dont have it on in California but if I need to its not far away
caag.state.ca.us/firearms/genchar.htm

Posted: 4/14/2006 2:08:44 PM EDT

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Yeah. Mean weapon for where you are.

I know I wish I could have bought an AR
thats a mean weapon anywhere. I love it!

Thank you

Posted: 4/14/2006 2:10:42 PM EDT

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... This picture was taken in Vegas Nevada I dont have it on in California but if I need to its not far away...

Insert gratuitous What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas comment here...

Posted: 4/14/2006 2:28:41 PM EDT

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... This picture was taken in Vegas Nevada I dont have it on in California but if I need to its not far away...

Insert gratuitous What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas comment here...

Here is a beer on me

Posted: 4/14/2006 2:39:38 PM EDT

[#19]

Why not just get a Mini14? I know they are not as good or accurate as an AR, but you can hit man sized target at a good long distance with them.

Also AR's are allowed in California, you just had to of had them several years ago.

Posted: 4/14/2006 3:01:11 PM EDT

[#20]

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Why not just get a Mini14? I know they are not as good or accurate as an AR, but you can hit man sized target at a good long distance with them.

Also AR's are allowed in California, you just had to of had them several years ago.

I have a Mini 14 and its no match
The tec is far more reliable accurate and does not heat up as fast

I love my mini 14 but the Kel-tec is superior in every way

Posted: 4/14/2006 3:40:56 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/14/2006 4:19:01 PM EDT

[#22]

I have a SU-16 in the collection.

Good gun. It should serve you well when U need it.

Posted: 4/14/2006 4:57:22 PM EDT

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I would have a hard time holding that thing up I shot one not long wow but a bit of an over kill

Posted: 4/14/2006 6:05:59 PM EDT

[#24]

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Why not just get a Mini14? I know they are not as good or accurate as an AR, but you can hit man sized target at a good long distance with them.

Also AR's are allowed in California, you just had to of had them several years ago.

I would think Mag issues. They are expensive and its hard to get reliable one, Now if it took AR mags...SWEET!

Posted: 4/14/2006 6:26:24 PM EDT

[#25]

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Why not just get a Mini14? I know they are not as good or accurate as an AR, but you can hit man sized target at a good long distance with them.

Also AR's are allowed in California, you just had to of had them several years ago.

I would think Mag issues. They are expensive and its hard to get reliable one, Now if it took AR mags...SWEET!

speaking of that have youo guys seen this yet?
www.kel-tec.com/plr16.html
This takes AR-15 mags!

Posted: 4/15/2006 6:37:07 AM EDT

[#26]

Got a range report? Ive been looking at them lately. I like rifles with pistol grips (I dont know why, just seems more comfortable) but I have heard some great things about that rifle. Ak reliability, great accuracy, and badass looks.

Posted: 4/15/2006 7:47:58 PM EDT

[#27]

That will do little pig that will do!!!!!

Posted: 4/15/2006 7:52:19 PM EDT

[#28]

So I shot a rabbit with a 40 gr sierra federal today

It took me a while to find all the pieces

Moment of silence please....

Posted: 4/15/2006 8:00:19 PM EDT

[#29]

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Got a range report? Ive been looking at them lately. I like rifles with pistol grips (I dont know why, just seems more comfortable) but I have heard some great things about that rifle. Ak reliability, great accuracy, and badass looks.

With a good scope nad the right shooter a 1-2 moa is possible

I shot a 3 moa at 200 yrds today! Using just an eotech and m855
I would say this gun is good out to about 400 meters

Yeah i love pistol grips

And yes as long as you dont shot the old wolf you will not have any problem and if you do keltec has a life time full warranty

Posted: 4/16/2006 1:24:46 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/16/2006 2:17:32 AM EDT

[#31]

Move to a free state

Posted: 4/16/2006 7:37:24 AM EDT

[#32]

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Move to a free state

Is it true you can have grenades there in Texas?

Posted: 4/16/2006 8:06:46 AM EDT

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Move to a free state

Uggg... I truly detest it when people say that. I had one gunsmith tell me that "he didn't believe in pinning flash suppresors" and that I should "move to a free state". As if it's that easy or that rather than make the customer happy I should pack up and move so that he doesn't have to pin my FH.

Posted: 4/16/2006 9:03:42 AM EDT

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photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=27459

Nice shorts

Posted: 4/16/2006 9:09:58 AM EDT

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photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=27459

Nice shorts

Clearly you don't know who Lars is.

Posted: 4/16/2006 10:44:44 AM EDT

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photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=27459

Nice shorts

Clearly you don't know who Lars is.

Lol that goes both ways I just said nice shorts

Posted: 4/16/2006 12:38:30 PM EDT

[#37]

I like the su-16,my only consern is how it will hold up over the long run,but they have been out there long enough that if they had any serious durability issuies they would have popped up by now.If I lived in cali,and wanted a .223 carbine I would take the keltec over the mini-14.

Posted: 4/16/2006 12:47:03 PM EDT

[#38]

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I like the su-16,my only consern is how it will hold up over the long run,but they have been out there long enough that if they had any serious durability issuies they would have popped up by now.If I lived in cali,and wanted a .223 carbine I would take the keltec over the mini-14.

I know I have never had a problem with mine, I know kel-tec has a lifetime warranty.
It's a good little rifle I like it.

I rather have an AR but what can you do? Some people here said that you can buy AR in California. I dont know I have fired over 120 rounds as fast as i can fire. It got hot but the threat would be gone dont you think?

Posted: 4/16/2006 5:05:39 PM EDT

[#39]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: 4/16/2006 6:22:25 PM EDT

[#40]

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Stop feeding this ,
+1 for him being banned.
Very strange this lad is, his info seeking I find very strangely odd, Almost scary.
Wrong info in wrong hands spells disaster

She is my x girlfiend

Posted: 4/17/2006 12:26:00 AM EDT

[#41]

Is he banned yet?

Posted: 4/17/2006 5:58:14 AM EDT

[#42]

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Is he banned yet?

Negative
I live forever

Posted: 4/17/2006 7:21:57 AM EDT

[#43]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: 4/17/2006 9:55:25 AM EDT

[#44]

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
wonder why he has not been banned yet.

Keltech do you know this guy
I teach brasilian jiujitsu and kickboxing love hip hop and rock love going out to clubs Vegas Hollywood. I love chilling with good friend and just having fun.
Male
29 years old
Bellflower, CALIFORNIA
United States
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Apparently you have found my account and now your lust for me runs wild, you appear more frivolous then first thought. Your stalker like behavior is inexplicably out of control. I am not sure how to relay this to you, but I am unequivocally unattracted to you
Please stop proclaiming your love for me. I don’t intent on ever dating you.

Posted: 4/17/2006 3:17:44 PM EDT

[#45]

Dude,I dont have a high opinion of people with myspace acounts (attention whore),however what the hell has keltech done here on arfcom that constitutes trolling?He seems like a newbie asking a lot of questions,but what the hell has he done?There are people that are team members on this site that troll about 10k harder than he does,so what the hell has he done to justify chasing him around on the fourms

Posted: 4/17/2006 4:42:54 PM EDT

[#46]

Keltech
Appoligy accepted
I removed my post about you

Posted: 4/18/2006 11:53:57 AM EDT

[#47]

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Buy an M1A.

For home defense? Too long, too heavy, too much penetration. For home defense purposes, a 5.56 carbine is as good as it gets.

are you kidding me....honestly i hope you live in the country if you're using a 5.56 round for home defense.....you know how many walls that round will penetrate....how many lives you'll endanger....for me it's the good ol 12 ga. or 20 ga. w/ buckshot......in CQB you're gonna need a wide dispersed shot especially in low light/ unaware/ scared conditions...not a small precision shot where you may not even have time to aim thru your a2 sights....jmho

Posted: 4/19/2006 12:18:54 AM EDT

[#48]

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Buy an M1A.

For home defense? Too long, too heavy, too much penetration. For home defense purposes, a 5.56 carbine is as good as it gets.

are you kidding me....honestly i hope you live in the country if you're using a 5.56 round for home defense.....you know how many walls that round will penetrate....how many lives you'll endanger....for me it's the good ol 12 ga. or 20 ga. w/ buckshot......in CQB you're gonna need a wide dispersed shot especially in low light/ unaware/ scared conditions...not a small precision shot where you may not even have time to aim thru your a2 sights....jmho

Not entirely true.....

Posted: 4/19/2006 6:02:58 AM EDT

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are you kidding me....honestly i hope you live in the country if you're using a 5.56 round for home defense.....you know how many walls that round will penetrate....how many lives you'll endanger....for me it's the good ol 12 ga. or 20 ga. w/ buckshot......in CQB you're gonna need a wide dispersed shot especially in low light/ unaware/ scared conditions...not a small precision shot where you may not even have time to aim thru your a2 sights....jmho

Posted: 4/19/2006 7:50:02 AM EDT

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Buy an M1A.

For home defense? Too long, too heavy, too much penetration. For home defense purposes, a 5.56 carbine is as good as it gets.

are you kidding me....honestly i hope you live in the country if you're using a 5.56 round for home defense.....you know how many walls that round will penetrate....how many lives you'll endanger....for me it's the good ol 12 ga. or 20 ga. w/ buckshot......in CQB you're gonna need a wide dispersed shot especially in low light/ unaware/ scared conditions...not a small precision shot where you may not even have time to aim thru your a2 sights....jmho

I hope you're kidding.

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