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2/28/2011 7:09:15 AM EDT
I have a factory RRA SBR which originally came with a 10.5" barrell.  I subsequently sold the upper and purchased an LWRC PSD upper, permanently altering the configuration of the rifle.  

To maintain compliance and to follow not only the letter of, but the spirit of the NFA, I drafted a letter to ATF advising them of the permanent alteration to the barrell and overall length of the weapon.

Now the interesting part, I sent the letter in August 2009;  I got a response letter this past Friday, February 25, 2011!!!

18 months for an ATF response?  Now mind you I would rather they spend their time approving other stamps, but 18 months seems a bit on the ridiculous side
2/28/2011 8:52:08 AM EDT
[#1]
I thought I read the average is about 2 years for a response for what you did.
2/28/2011 10:21:45 AM EDT
[#2]
Im not upset or anything, just found it curious.  Hell I had forgot I even sent it in.

Question though - do I need to carry a copy of the letter with a copy of my F4?  In the event I run into rookie Johnnie Law and he choses to bust my balls over the deal since my F4 technically no longer "matches" my rifle?  Just curious.

2/28/2011 3:57:02 PM EDT
[#3]
What kind of response do you get from the ATF when you send this kind of update in?

3/1/2011 3:17:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Im not upset or anything, just found it curious.  Hell I had forgot I even sent it in.

Question though - do I need to carry a copy of the letter with a copy of my F4?  In the event I run into rookie Johnnie Law and he choses to bust my balls over the deal since my F4 technically no longer "matches" my rifle?  Just curious.



From what I understand yes you do.
3/1/2011 4:54:55 AM EDT
[#5]
I don't think I'd even bother.
3/1/2011 6:26:36 AM EDT
[#6]
I don't believe you do.

Rookie johhny law will most likely not even notice it's NFA (I've been pulled over with my SBR and the officer had no idea)
And to my understanding, registering a weapon as an SBR just means shorter than 16" Bbl or 26" OAL, amendments being optional
3/1/2011 6:58:38 AM EDT
[#7]
Yep, my last change letter took a little over 2 years.

Martinsburg makes it clear that they do not want to hear about temporary changes.  So, the local leo is not going to know if your change from the Form 1/4 configuration is temporary or permanent.  An ATF agent that is taking any real time to investigate your gun is going to quarry the registry, but your change may or may not be reflected in the registry depending on when you sent the letter.

If anyone asks, Martinsburg is going to tell them that the gun does not have to match the registry because the change may be temporary or not yet reflected in the registry because that can take more than two years.

I have done 4 change letters.  I don't ever plan to do another.  I will keep the parts to return the gun to its Form 1 configuration.  I will never make a permanent change.  It gets too confusing.

I carry a copy of ATF response to my change letter with my copy of my Form 1.

Just Sayin!
3/1/2011 7:39:34 PM EDT
[#8]
You don't HAVE to carry the letter around with you. Sending them the letter is optional to begin with, and no one's going to care as long as it's registered and you paid your $200.
3/2/2011 5:48:02 AM EDT
[#9]
Fair enough; thanks for all the info.
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