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Originally Posted By MrPlayer:
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Originally Posted By jwramp:
1x and 2x on the iPhone lenses - notoriously tough to capture both a center and pano tube at the same time, but this gives a fair view of how the images blend together pretty smoothly. Remember the FoV is another 50% on top of this - looks like 3 tubes across when running them (AN/AVS-10). https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7918/46432870184_573b74d7f4_h.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/33281091048_cf56aedbb9_h.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Klaustrophobia: Is it weird or disorienting at all to have a stereo center image but mono side images? I imagine having depth perception in the middle and not on the side could fuck with your brain. View Quote |
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Wow. Fantastic pics guys.
JW, that's got to be the clearest iPhone NV pics I've ever seen--and of a quad system to boot! Would love to hear what manual settings, if any, you use on the iPhone...and even with a DSLR/mirrorless camera for NV shooting. Augee, those are super useful comparison pics with a great layout. Of course like everyone says, even with such great pics they can't quite convey how these tubes look in analog RL use. For example, to my eye the Photonis ECHO pic seems to have the higher contrast/"better" image vs the L3 WP Filmless, which almost looks a little blown out. But in actual use I'm betting the L3 exhibits less scintillation and shows more useful detail in darker recesses (at least that's been my limited experience when comparing copies of both [ECHO WP, L3 WP Filmless] side-by-side, while noting individual specs make a big difference). I really need to find my iPhone adapter (or buy another, they're so cheap)! |
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X2, especially the DSLR settings. I have settings I got some years back from someone in the industry that worked awesome. Unfortunately he moved on and I can't find them.
I agree, pics (and video too) are so f'n frustrating sometimes compared to the actual image. You have to get so much material to find the ones that captured better than others. The Echo looks better than the Intens & L3 filmed too. Originally Posted By C3N4-1:
Wow. Fantastic pics guys. JW, that's got to be the clearest iPhone NV pics I've ever seen--and of a quad system to boot! Would love to hear what manual settings, if any, you use on the iPhone...and even with a DSLR/mirrorless camera for NV shooting. Augee, those are super useful comparison pics with a great layout. Of course like everyone says, even with such great pics they can't quite convey how these tubes look in analog RL use. For example, to my eye the Photonis ECHO pic seems to have the higher contrast/"better" image vs the L3 WP Filmless, which almost looks a little blown out. But in actual use I'm betting the L3 exhibits less scintillation and shows more useful detail in darker recesses (at least that's been my limited experience when comparing copies of both [ECHO WP, L3 WP Filmless] side-by-side, while noting individual specs make a big difference). I really need to find my iPhone adapter (or buy another, they're so cheap)! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
Like I said in the OOB thread, these are all kind “teasers,” hahaha, much more detail will be coming about specific conditions, etc. But, same order: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/7C6BED78-5920-4B45-9FB3-9308D28DE3BF-854439.jpg ~Augee View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
Like I said in the OOB thread, these are all kind “teasers,” hahaha, much more detail will be coming about specific conditions, etc. But, same order: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/7C6BED78-5920-4B45-9FB3-9308D28DE3BF-854439.jpg ~Augee View Quote So this latest round of pics are nice because now you can see up-close how the L3 WP Filmless tube shows more detail on the face and blaster vs the Photonis ECHO WP tube. Though I will say the writing on the hat and badge appear most crisp on the Photonis INTENS. They are all close enough to say that perhaps many of the perceived quality differences in their images could be down to those afore-mentioned conditions/variables. Certainly educated hands-on use, under controlled conditions, is best. But that's rarely possible for most of us, so we rely on our sharper forumites and retailers to provide that qualitative interpretation that dovetails with our wants/needs. That's why you're paid the big bucks. Anyhow, though none of this so far contradicts my own generalizations based on what I've read/seen online or experienced first-hand--more info like this is very much welcome! |
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Originally Posted By will-1:
X2, especially the DSLR settings. I have settings I got some years back from someone in the industry that worked awesome. Unfortunately he moved on and I can't find them. I agree, pics (and video too) are so f'n frustrating sometimes compared to the actual image. You have to get so much material to find the ones that captured better than others. The Echo looks better than the Intens & L3 filmed too. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By will-1:
X2, especially the DSLR settings. I have settings I got some years back from someone in the industry that worked awesome. Unfortunately he moved on and I can't find them. I agree, pics (and video too) are so f'n frustrating sometimes compared to the actual image. You have to get so much material to find the ones that captured better than others. The Echo looks better than the Intens & L3 filmed too. View Quote Yeah see it's subjective as well--I agree somewhat the ECHO looks a bit better overall than the INTENS and L3 Filmed, but I feel that' more down to the difference between WP and GP. The detail of the writing on the hat and handgun are sharper on the INTENS than the ECHO. |
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Originally Posted By jwramp: Those are just me holding my iPhone up to the goggles... and they're ball mounted so I had to balance the whole helmet in my hand too haha. I typically use the "Pro Camera" app so I can lock it into the 1x or 2x lenses on the iPhone XS - the built in camera will try to outsmart you and flip back and forth between them - horrible if you're shooting through a scope or something else where alignment is important. Then I just tap to autofocus and really just use the auto exposure too... View Quote |
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I'll have to try that app thanks for that. For a while now I've given up using the Canon and use an iPhone instead. So much easier.
Originally Posted By C3N4-1: Good tips! I use the Pro Camera app too when using with the iPhone adapter. I feel like the faster 1x iPhone (7 Plus for me) lens gives me better results than the 2x in most situations. You? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By C3N4-1: Good tips! I use the Pro Camera app too when using with the iPhone adapter. I feel like the faster 1x iPhone (7 Plus for me) lens gives me better results than the 2x in most situations. You? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jwramp:
1x and 2x on the iPhone lenses - notoriously tough to capture both a center and pano tube at the same time, but this gives a fair view of how the images blend together pretty smoothly. Remember the FoV is another 50% on top of this - looks like 3 tubes across when running them (AN/AVS-10). https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7918/46432870184_573b74d7f4_h.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/33281091048_cf56aedbb9_h.jpg View Quote |
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I still haven't found a solution. I have the camera adapter ring from TNVC but I still havnt found a way to attach it to a DSLR lens without having a custom adapter made. Any thoughts?
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"Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this in mind; it may offer a way to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate — and quickly." -Heinlein.
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel:
I still haven't found a solution. I have the camera adapter ring from TNVC but I still havnt found a way to attach it to a DSLR lens without having a custom adapter made. Any thoughts? View Quote |
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Tactical Night Vision Corporation - TNVC, INC.
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Like Vic said you need the right step rings. I brought my device and the camera adapter to a legit camera store and they found the right step down/up rings.
Edit to add: also bring your camera lens/lenses Originally Posted By RaptorFuel:
I still haven't found a solution. I have the camera adapter ring from TNVC but I still havnt found a way to attach it to a DSLR lens without having a custom adapter made. Any thoughts? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
I sure as hell aint no JW... but; https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/357198B8-FF20-463F-A8E4-BF9C9A47DE4A-853837.jpg Clockwise from top left: Photonis ECHO Photonis 4G INTENS L3 OMNI VIII Filmed L3 WP Filmless ~Augee View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
Like I said in the OOB thread, these are all kind “teasers,” hahaha, much more detail will be coming about specific conditions, etc. But, same order: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/468022/7C6BED78-5920-4B45-9FB3-9308D28DE3BF-854439.jpg ~Augee View Quote |
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Not any good at taking pics yet but these are the best I've gotten so far.
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Took some video around the neighborhood to show a pretty good example of mixed lighting conditions. My dumbass forgot to turn off auto focus though Tube specs L3 filmless white phosphor 34 SNR .8 EBI .7 Halo 64 lp/mm Dropbox Link |
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Originally Posted By TNVC: You have the 46mm adapter. Do you know the size of your lens? You will need a step up/step down ring adapter for the len B&H Photo carries a good amount of adapters. View Quote I have a lens that takes 77mm filters. I looked around BH and I could only find a step-up 46-77, not a step-down. ETA. I looked again and found a 77-52 and a 52-46. |
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"Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes. Keep this in mind; it may offer a way to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate — and quickly." -Heinlein.
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel:
@TNVC I have a lens that takes 77mm filters. I looked around BH and I could only find a step-up 46-77, not a step-down. ETA. I looked again and found a 77-52 and a 52-46. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RaptorFuel:
Originally Posted By TNVC: You have the 46mm adapter. Do you know the size of your lens? You will need a step up/step down ring adapter for the len B&H Photo carries a good amount of adapters. I have a lens that takes 77mm filters. I looked around BH and I could only find a step-up 46-77, not a step-down. ETA. I looked again and found a 77-52 and a 52-46. |
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Raccoon? Yeah man. They are cats and when they fight they are loud as hell.
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Originally Posted By Klaustrophobia:
Had to see what all the damn racket outside my window was. Can you spot the backyard wildlife? https://i.imgur.com/NDAR2UL.jpg I did not know these critters made that much noise until tonight. Or climbed trees. View Quote |
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Yeah I want thermal. I don't have the first clue what to get though. I'm not a hunter and likely never will be. Except SHTF is the reason/self-justification for buying my multi-thousand dollar adult toys (not those kind!) and you really kinda want a thermal scope for that I would think. But the real use would be just looking at stuff at night. E-coti is high on the list for that reason, but it seems like the MOST niche use thermal product to me, even if that niche is where I would primarily use it.
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Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
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Only if that's an OOB light source
Originally Posted By JoeMal:
Can an Aurora play? I'll be poor right here https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/263586/SiOnyx-415F54_20190308193709_XQE_0008_JPG-874160.JPG View Quote |
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Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by making it illegal for sober people to own cars
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NFA Collector & all the things that go bang!
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Is that through a PVS-15 Originally Posted By ChrisNTN:
Very nice @will-1 These nice trees are always blocking my views of the sky. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/40774/20190406_004130-905152.jpg View Quote |
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NFA Collector & all the things that go bang!
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Originally Posted By will-1:
@ChrisNTN Is that through a PVS-15 View Quote Nope that pic is through my 1st set Night Vision Depot BNVD-3 goggles that are now my wifes. I picked up the HEAT/L3 PVS15's today and checked them out tonight but didn't bring my phone out to snap some pics through. Those will be coming soon enough. |
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Congrats. Looking forward to seeing it.
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