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Posted: 12/16/2014 3:43:55 AM EDT
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I have been using FrogLube but I am out now and thinking of checking out something else. So I was looking at the alternatives (like fire clean ect) when I ran across this home brew type CLP http://alphaclp.com/ and was just curiuse if anyone has had any experiance with it.
I would look into other suggested alternatives as well . . |
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I really like Lucas Gun Oil, it is not all natural, but is Odorless and Environmentally Friendly. You can pick up a good sized bottle for about $5 at most auto parts stores.
I have also heard that Frog lube is very similar to Thomson Center Natural Lube 1000. |
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I went ahead and got the $10 sample pack of that Alpha stuff to try out for myself since I can't really seem to find much on it.
I did find a few interesting videos on the stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRXq4dx6V6M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YMdw6aez1s |
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When FrogLube first came out I was a BIG sceptic so I went ahead and bought some to try for myself. While I won't go as far as most were after first trying it by saying things like "it's the new standard" or "it will magically make your gun something it wasn't before" I have kept using it this whole time because I felt the good outweighed the bad.
In all the time I have used it I've never had any gumming problems from semi-autos to old surplus bolt guns which leads me to believe that I am either very lucky or others are not following some of the steps during the process of applying it like wipe off ALL excess. |
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Breakfree clp smells nice. It's what a lot of us use. This. I use this and have for several years now. Break Free Lubricant or Break Free CLP |
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Ballistol reeks like a rancid grease dumpster that's been sitting in the sun behind a truck stop all summer long but... it's natural, works well, mixes with water, but don't make the mistake of using it in your laundry room sink  I bought a can of Ballistol. Used it once. Now gun cleaning is banned from indoors if I use Ballostol. I use Hoppes 9, Breakfree CLP, Slip 2000 EWL, Fireclean in various combinations depanding on how much cleaning is required. You know they could make that shit smell like sugar cookies if they wanted to. |
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Got in the alpha kit today and cleaned an sks that had about 500 rounds ran through it. I would say the CLP works well as a cleaner but I am not 100% sure on how it will work for a lubricant or for long term storage.
It smells like a weak vicks vaporub and is thinner than froglube paste but a little thicker than the froglube liquid. |
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Froglube is biodegradable which makes it degrade into a gummy mess after a few moths on my guns. Never again. I use CLP and Slip 2000 50 weight in different guns. Had the same thing happen and i only left a very thin coating on slide rails etc.. I also use Slip 2000 . |
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Quoted: Maybe I will have to try this then. http://shop.tacticalshit.com/liberal-tears-gun-oil-6oz Quoted: Quoted: Bacon grease!!  All natural, smells great, may attract house pets and wildlife. Maybe I will have to try this then. http://shop.tacticalshit.com/liberal-tears-gun-oil-6oz Tempted to get some of that as a novelty item. Most guys at work would love it, others not so much. |
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Almost anything that is a "cleaner" in addition to other functions is going to have volatile compounds/solvents, so will have odor.
So, separate the cleaning and lubrication/protection functions. I doubt you are on the battlefield or not able to obtain supply to where you can't maintain different products for cleaning and lubrication. http://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-51004-Synthetic-Viscosity/dp/B000UKUHXK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421102053&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=synco+superlube Synco Superlube is a pretty good, simple PAO based oil with PTFE, which IME has no perceptable odor. They also have a lighter weight oil without PTFE, and a grease which is pretty good for handguns IMO. They're also non-toxic and even USDA rated for food contact applications. "Safe" doesn't necessarily have to be "natural". |
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Almost anything that is a "cleaner" in addition to other functions is going to have volatile compounds/solvents, so will have odor. So, separate the cleaning and lubrication/protection functions. I doubt you are on the battlefield or not able to obtain supply to where you can't maintain different products for cleaning and lubrication. http://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-51004-Synthetic-Viscosity/dp/B000UKUHXK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421102053&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=synco+superlube Synco Superlube is a pretty good, simple PAO based oil with PTFE, which IME has no perceptable odor. They also have a lighter weight oil without PTFE, and a grease which is pretty good for handguns IMO. They're also non-toxic and even USDA rated for food contact applications. "Safe" doesn't necessarily have to be "natural". Thanks for the tip but If you look through this thread there seems to be plenty of products that clean lube and protect just fine with little to no bad odor. |
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I'm one who thinks Breakfree CLP reeks. About makes me gag. Firepower FP-10 is a great CLP and smells like cinnamon. No idea whether or not it's all natural though. Ballistol is all natural and I think it smells OK. Certainly doesn't fill up a room like Hoppe's No 9.
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Thanks for the tip but If you look through this thread there seems to be plenty of products that clean lube and protect just fine with little to no bad odor. Quoted:
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Almost anything that is a "cleaner" in addition to other functions is going to have volatile compounds/solvents, so will have odor. So, separate the cleaning and lubrication/protection functions. I doubt you are on the battlefield or not able to obtain supply to where you can't maintain different products for cleaning and lubrication. http://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-51004-Synthetic-Viscosity/dp/B000UKUHXK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1421102053&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=synco+superlube Synco Superlube is a pretty good, simple PAO based oil with PTFE, which IME has no perceptable odor. They also have a lighter weight oil without PTFE, and a grease which is pretty good for handguns IMO. They're also non-toxic and even USDA rated for food contact applications. "Safe" doesn't necessarily have to be "natural". Thanks for the tip but If you look through this thread there seems to be plenty of products that clean lube and protect just fine with little to no bad odor. Lots of people say that ATF is fine to use as a lubricant and smells ok when it's known as a serious irritant and allergen to many. People in this thread have recommended Break Free CLP when many people find it to be an irritant. Might be wise to take advice from folks who are on the more sensitive side of the chemical detection scale vs the "hoppes #9 is my cologne" side. |
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That's what I started out using but I would really like to stay with the more natural products now. 
Why, because it's healthier? Ya ain't eatin' it, ya's shootin' it. If you have to worry about something, worry about the lead dust and spent powder toxic compounds you might be breathing when you shoot. |
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