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12/15/2008 4:12:18 AM EDT
I just picked up 2 boxes of Nosler Custom Competition 185 grain JHP bullets and also Hodgdon Titegroup powder.  Does anyone have any good loads using this combo in a USP Tactical 45?
12/15/2008 5:03:52 AM EDT
[#1]
try

data.hodgdon.com

12/15/2008 5:53:47 AM EDT
[#2]
The Hodgdon site lists:

Bullet Weight (Gr.)  Manufacturer  Powder  Bullet Diam.  C.O.L.  Grs.  Vel. (ft/s)  Pressure  Grs.  Vel. (ft/s)  Pressure        
185 GR. HDY JSWC  Hodgdon  Titegroup  .451"  1.195"  5.0  892  14,600 CUP  5.5  956  17,000 CUP

And the bullet listed is JSWC while I have JHP.  I looked at Lee Precision Modern Reloading 2nd Edition and it lists the same information under jacketed bullets.  So I'm guessing that if the weight matches and it is jacketed, the load data can be used.
Both of the above references lists 5.5 grains as the max, however, Hornady's 7th Edition lists 6.6 grains as the maximum load using their XTP or SWC ENC bullets of the same weight.  So does bullet type matter when referring load data?
12/15/2008 5:58:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Yeah it does, you generally don't want to use JHP data for FMJ or SWC bullets.  How many reloading manuals do you own?  I usually recommend having at least 2, preferably 3.  Just to be able to cross-reference and verify data.
12/15/2008 6:26:06 AM EDT
[#4]
I've got 2... Lee and Hornady.  I also cross reference with data from reputable websites like those of powder/bullet manufacturers.  Since the Hornady HP/XTP is similar to the Nosler JHP in that they are both jacketed hollow points, I guess I'll use Hornady's load info...
12/15/2008 7:11:38 AM EDT
[#5]
Your going to like them. I've been using them for quite some time. Very accurate in my Kimber. I've loaded them over 5.7 gr of bullseye, but thats me. Whatever you choose start 10% lower than max and work up to what is good for you.
12/15/2008 10:09:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
try

data.hodgdon.com




Do you believe that is what the OP meant?
12/15/2008 10:29:11 AM EDT
[#7]
4.2gr HTG
OAL of 1.200"

This will be a very accurate loading.
12/15/2008 10:49:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Yeah it does, you generally don't want to use JHP data for FMJ or SWC bullets.  


What is your reasoning for not using JHP data for FMJs?

The only thing that you need to consider is that bullet may seat alittle deeper in the case on a JHP of the same weight FMJ unless the JHP has a thin jacket.

Obviously loading a LSWC is a different story.
12/15/2008 12:22:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Different bullets although they may be the same in weight will create pressure according to how long the bearing surface is.  So to be safe you can not always just go by the weight from one to the next.
I have an old 45 acp. load map from midway that lists loads according to bullet type, weight, and manufacurer.  Takes a lot of the guess work out, but I still begin at the suggested starting load.

12/15/2008 1:57:31 PM EDT
[#10]
My best answer is "what do your loading manuals say about 185gr bullets in .45 ACP?"  I'd like to know whether the OP has actually checked his manuals (or for that matter HAS manuals) before I make any suggestions.

And I like those bullets a lot.
12/15/2008 2:29:07 PM EDT
[#11]
That's the best bullet I have ever shot in a 45 ACP. Bulls-eye matches, bowling pins, Hunting, you name it. Oh yea, 8.2 grains of Unique at 1.20 OAL. I do not own a 45 that doesn't like this load and I own quite a few.HTH....ED
12/15/2008 3:36:45 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Different bullets although they may be the same in weight will create pressure according to how long the bearing surface is.  So to be safe you can not always just go by the weight from one to the next.
I have an old 45 acp. load map from midway that lists loads according to bullet type, weight, and manufacurer.  Takes a lot of the guess work out, but I still begin at the suggested starting load.



I understand about the differing bearing surfaces but there is no way the starting load for a FMJ will be even close to max for the same weight JHP bullet or vis versa.
12/15/2008 3:47:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Handloads.org has a bunch of loads for 185 JHP.
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