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Posted: 11/3/2011 7:58:23 AM EDT
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Alright. Well I'm 18 so its time to get into the class III world. As many of y'all know my only options are form 1 SBR/SBS or a instate FTF suppressor. Suppressors out of the question due to cost of used, ill wait till I'm 21. So my options are: I have a S&W AR...I could form 1 it to a SBR. I don't have the money to buy a new rifle so it would be the 1 AR I have. (yes I know I need more ARs but I'm a poor high school student) Next would be to SBS a side by side shotgun. Not much practicality here. Just a fun range toy. The final option is my 10/22. I would probably just buy another one and SBR that. Thinking a "pocket" 10/22 folding stock and all. Imagine a charger with a folding stock. So I want y'alls opinions. I'm leaning towards the 10/22 as ammo is cheap and 10/22s are fairly cheap. So fire away. Thanks Luke |
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Alright. Well I'm 18 so its time to get into the class III world. As many of y'all know my only options are form 1 SBR/SBS or a instate FTF suppressor. Suppressors out of the question due to cost of used, ill wait till I'm 21. So my options are: I have a S&W AR...I could form 1 it to a SBR. I don't have the money to buy a new rifle so it would be the 1 AR I have. (yes I know I need more ARs but I'm a poor high school student) Next would be to SBS a side by side shotgun. Not much practicality here. Just a fun range toy. The final option is my 10/22. I would probably just buy another one and SBR that. Thinking a "pocket" 10/22 folding stock and all. Imagine a charger with a folding stock. So I want y'alls opinions. I'm leaning towards the 10/22 as ammo is cheap and 10/22s are fairly cheap. So fire away. Thanks Luke Normally, I'd say to go with the AR for a first SBR. If you are still in school, however, then the 10/22 might be the best bet for cost of ammo. I'd much rather be shooting a 10/22 than looking at an AR wishing I had the money to feed it. Now if you already have a .22 conversion kit for the AR (or plan to get one) then I'd say go with the AR as it will be more flexible down the line and will allow you to shoot both rimfire and centerfire. Depending on your budget, the extra $150 for a drop-in conversion might be worth it in the long run. Look at what it would cost to SBR the 10/22 vs what it would cost to chop your AR + a .22 kit. |
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SBR the AR and get a .22lr bolt so you can plink cheap.
An SBRed lower opens up so many options for you in the future to collect uppers at funds allow - plus, a SBRed lower configured with a 16" + upper is no longer an SBR in the eyes of the BATF, so you don't have to worry about limiting your options with what you can do with the lower. A 10/22 will always be a 10/22 and never more than a 10/22. An SBRed lower with a .22 conversion bolt... the possibilities are limitless! 
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Quoted: Alright. Well I'm 18 so its time to get into the class III world. As many of y'all know my only options are form 1 SBR/SBS or a instate FTF suppressor. Suppressors out of the question due to cost of used, ill wait till I'm 21. So my options are: What the heck is a instate FTF Suppressor??? |
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Quoted: If someones lives in my state...GA. Then I can do a face to face transfer. But I can not buy from a GA dealership. So basically its a private sale.Quoted: Alright. Well I'm 18 so its time to get into the class III world. As many of y'all know my only options are form 1 SBR/SBS or a instate FTF suppressor. Suppressors out of the question due to cost of used, ill wait till I'm 21. So my options are: What the heck is a instate FTF Suppressor??? |
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Sorry I didn't mean to cause confusion. A form 4 is still required. You just don't have to go through a deal from what I have gathered. Quoted: Ummmm....I believe the ATF must approve the transfer of a suppressor on a Form 4. You're gonna have to wait. The ATF has said that you can register your AR on a Form 1, however. So get the SBR stamp going |
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Ummmm....I believe the ATF must approve the transfer of a suppressor on a Form 4. You're gonna have to wait. The ATF has said that you can register your AR on a Form 1, however. So get the SBR stamp going OP is under 21. I think he was just saying that an FTF transfer is his only option if he wants a suppressor... 
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| I agree with the above posters: SBR the lower and buy a .22 conversion for the shorty 5.56 upper. You wouldn't be into it for much more money, and you'll be much happier with the outcome. You mentioned in your post that you were considering buying another 10/22 to SBR. You can find a used .22 conversion for the same or less than a 10/22, and you'll still be out the $200 for a stamp either way. |
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Theres something about those pocket 10/22s that are just so damn sexy. I think my solution is that I need to make more money. All three of these that I mentioned will eventually happen its just a question of which ones first. Quoted: I agree with the above posters: SBR the lower and buy a .22 conversion for the shorty 5.56 upper. You wouldn't be into it for much more money, and you'll be much happier with the outcome. You mentioned in your post that you were considering buying another 10/22 to SBR. You can find a used .22 conversion for the same or less than a 10/22, and you'll still be out the $200 for a stamp either way. |
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Theres something about those pocket 10/22s that are just so damn sexy. I think my solution is that I need to make more money. All three of these that I mentioned will eventually happen its just a question of which ones first. Quoted:
I agree with the above posters: SBR the lower and buy a .22 conversion for the shorty 5.56 upper. You wouldn't be into it for much more money, and you'll be much happier with the outcome. You mentioned in your post that you were considering buying another 10/22 to SBR. You can find a used .22 conversion for the same or less than a 10/22, and you'll still be out the $200 for a stamp either way. I here ya'. I've had lots of guns in the past that were more or less bought for the cool factor alone. Nothing wrong with that at all. An SBR AR is pretty damn sexy too, though. And you could run it on the cheap with a .22 conversion and even do a dedicated SBR .22 upper down the road. (And also an SBR 9mm, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 SPC, etc., etc.) I just really think that once the newness and novelty wore off on the 10/22, you'd regret not doing the AR. Like you said though, you just need to decide what to do first. Just enjoy it either way cause that's mostly what it's about. Also, kudos to you for being 18 AND literate and well spoken. Your posts don't run together and you actually use punctuation. You look like a genius compared to most 18 year old high school students (MOST, not all. I have an 18 year old who's a senior so I can speak on the subject) |
It's just a waiting game now, but like the others, down the road you will be happier with the ar.
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Quoted: Thank you very much. I appreciate the compliments. Quoted: Theres something about those pocket 10/22s that are just so damn sexy. I think my solution is that I need to make more money. All three of these that I mentioned will eventually happen its just a question of which ones first. Quoted: I agree with the above posters: SBR the lower and buy a .22 conversion for the shorty 5.56 upper. You wouldn't be into it for much more money, and you'll be much happier with the outcome. You mentioned in your post that you were considering buying another 10/22 to SBR. You can find a used .22 conversion for the same or less than a 10/22, and you'll still be out the $200 for a stamp either way. I here ya'. I've had lots of guns in the past that were more or less bought for the cool factor alone. Nothing wrong with that at all. An SBR AR is pretty damn sexy too, though. And you could run it on the cheap with a .22 conversion and even do a dedicated SBR .22 upper down the road. (And also an SBR 9mm, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 SPC, etc., etc.) I just really think that once the newness and novelty wore off on the 10/22, you'd regret not doing the AR. Like you said though, you just need to decide what to do first. Just enjoy it either way cause that's mostly what it's about. Also, kudos to you for being 18 AND literate and well spoken. Your posts don't run together and you actually use punctuation. You look like a genius compared to most 18 year old high school students (MOST, not all. I have an 18 year old who's a senior so I can speak on the subject) |
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I would suggest the shotgun. An SBR .22 is a toy. An SBR .223, unless one's wanting to poke .22" holes in the miscreant, is also a toy. A SBS has actual social use, which is why it was taxed in the 1st place.
Now, if you were going to SBR your AR .45", or maybe your 6.8, I'd see the point. Gig 'em, backbencher |
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I like your thinking haha Quoted: I would suggest the shotgun. An SBR .22 is a toy. An SBR .223, unless one's wanting to poke .22" holes in the miscreant, is also a toy. A SBS has actual social use, which is why it was taxed in the 1st place. Now, if you were going to SBR your AR .45", or maybe your 6.8, I'd see the point. Gig 'em, backbencher |
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I would suggest the shotgun. An SBR .22 is a toy. An SBR .223, unless one's wanting to poke .22" holes in the miscreant, is also a toy. A SBS has actual social use, which is why it was taxed in the 1st place. Now, if you were going to SBR your AR .45", or maybe your 6.8, I'd see the point. Gig 'em, backbencher With some of the new rounds, like the Black Hills 50gr TSX, a very short barreled AR can still be an extremely effective defensive tool. I voted SBR the AR, it will have most versatility considering how many calibers you can shoot by just changing uppers. |
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Well I think I am gonna go the AR route. I just ordered a .22 conversion bolt. Now I just have to figure out what barrel length I want to go. 11.5" is a good place to start. It's short while still maintaining somewhat decent ballistics and dwell time. But that is what i have so I may be somewhat biased 
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Thanks. I'm still not sure if Im going to switch out my barrel or cut it down. To many decisions here. Quoted: Quoted: Well I think I am gonna go the AR route. I just ordered a .22 conversion bolt. Now I just have to figure out what barrel length I want to go. 11.5" is a good place to start. It's short while still maintaining somewhat decent ballistics and dwell time. But that is what i have so I may be somewhat biased |
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