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4/10/2007 5:40:17 AM EDT
A friend of mine that goes by "Bullet Bob" is coming out with a newly designed  RBT- SLD .510" sniper round 715 grain.

The Picture

Enjoy!!

Oh yeah and his website: www.customprojectile.com/prodserv.htm
4/10/2007 8:48:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Is this just a new projectile for the existing 50bmg case??
4/10/2007 8:55:46 AM EDT
[#2]
So when do we get samples?
4/10/2007 12:34:52 PM EDT
[#3]
gotta price tag?

I'm with 50 shooter, Where's the free samples so we can give him feedback on his product.

Jason
4/10/2007 3:03:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Solid copper with a hollow point?
4/10/2007 5:03:36 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Solid copper with a hollow point?


And would an HP make much difference in how much damage a .50 does?  Honestly, you think a Holow Point is really going to kill much better then the bullet that Canadian sniper used?  He seemed to do well out to 2400 yards.  
4/10/2007 5:12:55 PM EDT
[#6]
Doesn't the "hollow point" help somehoww with the accuracy? Sierra MatchKings have a

slight hollow point and it seems that I heard that this aids in accuracy.
4/10/2007 7:43:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Yes, most match bullets like the Sierra's and Berger's use a hollopoint design. It is not for hunting applications but I believe helps stabilize the bullet in flight. Hopefully a bullet physicist will be along shortly for the technical answer.
4/10/2007 9:44:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Well, yes and no on the HP deal.

First and foremost, the main reason for the HP on those designs is due to the manufacturing process.  The jacket is formed, THEN the lead is put in somewhere.  So for a FMJ, the lead is filled through the back, leaving that area open.  For match bullets, it's the opposite, and.  However, there is a few things to remember.  A match bullet, although considered a HP, is in actuality, an "open tip" design.  A true hollow point has a hollowed area in the core.  For instance, look at a pistol HP to get an idea what i'm talking about.  If you look at a cutaway of match bullets, they don't have this "hollowed" area in the lead.

So a true HP IS designed for expansion as air will be violently forced into the core causing rapid expansion.

For a match bullet "Hollow point", I'm trying to remember, but I'm wanting to say that moving the center of mass back (by leaving the tip empty of heavy lead) causes the bullet to be more stable, which probably means it will stay "asleep" longer and at lower speeds before it starts to tumble.  As for simply not having a tip, a quick look at Hornady A-max's makes me wonder if the lack of a tip is simply a cost issues, and also the possibility a tip will induce more inconsistancies than just leaving it open.

Now, given many .50 projo's are milled from solid alloy, or done out of copper, "filling" a jacket is not a necessity, so a HP design would purely be a functional addition of some type.

Anyway, just thought I'd share what I seem to remember about the subject.

Gundraw
4/10/2007 9:51:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Gundraw, some OTMs, like the Lapua Scenar (the 155 at least) have a hollow tip. Its still not designed for expansion though.
4/10/2007 10:20:06 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Gundraw, some OTMs, like the Lapua Scenar (the 155 at least) have a hollow tip. Its still not designed for expansion though.


I'm not real familiar with these.  So are you saying in addition to having a open tip, it has a hollowed core "V" inside?

I really wouldn't think that would shift weight enough to be worth it!  However, you very well could be right.  I'm just giving information i found to be true and make sense.

Gundraw
4/10/2007 10:51:23 PM EDT
[#11]
It looks like an FMJ but has a large air pocket in the front.
4/11/2007 7:53:05 AM EDT
[#12]
From my friend.

100 count lots for a RBT-SLD 715 Grain .
5105" @ $1.46 per piece and $8.50 S&H&Ins so $154.50 shipped to there door.
it will be about 2-4 weeks before production begins but we started excepting orders and all are being told about a month before delivery will begin.... later today i should be able to give out the specs on the new bullet design for those that want to run there ballistic program numbers.  none of this is up on our site yet been to busy but people can call and pre-place there orders we except master card and visa.

4/11/2007 1:21:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Ballistic Coefficient?  i didn't see this mentioned.  do you have a spec?  i know this is relative to velocity, but i'd like to hear what they may be rated at...

4/11/2007 6:55:46 PM EDT
[#14]
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Quoted:


100 count lots for a RBT-SLD 715 Grain .
5105" @ $1.46 per piece and $8.50 S&H&Ins so $154.50 shipped to there door.
it will be about 2-4 weeks before production begins but we started excepting orders and all are being told about a month before delivery will begin.... later today i should be able to give out the specs on the new bullet design for those that want to run there ballistic program numbers.  none of this is up on our site yet been to busy but people can call and pre-place there orders we except master card and visa.



One thing for sure judging by the price he has a high opinion of his product (maybe deservingly so). He's pricing this product in Barnes/Hornady territory. It's also a pretty bold statement to be taking orders for a pre-production component with no proven track record in either the products performance or in the company's ability to deliver this product. Sounds like he's collecting the money to fund this project. I would definitely have to wait and get some feed back before making a purchase here.
4/13/2007 1:04:56 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Solid copper with a hollow point?


And would an HP make much difference in how much damage a .50 does?  Honestly, you think a Holow Point is really going to kill much better then the bullet that Canadian sniper used?  He seemed to do well out to 2400 yards.  


The point was that the HP bullets move the center of gravity to the rear give much better stabilization.
We shot a  bunch of it when I worked at Barrett. The rounds were made for us by Winchester. They shot fantastic well past 1500m.
4/13/2007 2:17:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Tony,
To bad Winchester didn't win the contract to supply the military, HSM is selling the leftovers. The French ended up winning the contract with their Anthena designed bullet.

The presence of the open tip is to make the bullet longer without adding too much weight and shifting the center of gravity too far forward, it's not for expansion purposes.  Being solid brass, I doubt it would expand.   Hornady used a different approach by making the bullet longer by using aluminum.
4/14/2007 2:08:57 PM EDT
[#17]
any specs on this bullet yet?
Thanks
4/15/2007 10:37:21 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Solid copper with a hollow point?


And would an HP make much difference in how much damage a .50 does?  Honestly, you think a Holow Point is really going to kill much better then the bullet that Canadian sniper used?  He seemed to do well out to 2400 yards.  


The point was that the HP bullets move the center of gravity to the rear give much better stabilization.
We shot a  bunch of it when I worked at Barrett. The rounds were made for us by Winchester. They shot fantastic well past 1500m.


Thanks for the info, I learn something new here every day
4/18/2007 11:41:35 AM EDT
[#19]
The O.A.L. is a little shorter than shown and there will be some changes to the final product specs, but gives you a starting point at any rate. you might have to rotate the bmp left for a better look at the new design.. well back to work.


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