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Posted: 3/25/2015 11:11:03 PM EDT
Just started and got this on about 14 out of 50 rounds
124gr blue bullet 5.1gr HS6 1.140" oal Was thinking maybe too low on the powder...not enogh to let the slide cycle fully. Or the oal too long? Hornady manual says 5.1gr as lowest for the HS6, on the hodgon website they say lowest is 6.0. Not really sure where to go on that either |
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My Lee manual for 125gr lead shows minimum of 5.9gr HS6 max 6.6gr.
For 125gr Jacketed my Lee says minimum is 6.4gr. Max 6.8gr. Can't explain why Hornady shows these low numbers... I'd try a bit more like Hogdon suggests, watching the maximums and see if that helps. OAL seems ok, less than 1.169" maximum. |
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My Lee manual for 125gr lead shows minimum of 5.9gr HS6 max 6.6gr. For 125gr Jacketed my Lee says minimum is 6.4gr. Max 6.8gr. Can't explain why Hornady shows these low numbers... I'd try a bit more like Hogdon suggests, watching the maximums and see if that helps. OAL seems ok, less than 1.169" maximum. ok thanks...will try a little more powder going with what hodgon shows |
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Just started and got this on about 14 out of 50 rounds <a href="http://s247.photobucket.com/user/bhsdriller/media/20150325_162806_zpsw3ovqgpw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg137/bhsdriller/20150325_162806_zpsw3ovqgpw.jpg</a> 124gr blue bullet 5.1gr HS6 1.140" oal Was thinking maybe too low on the powder...not enogh to let the slide cycle fully. Or the oal too long? Hornady manual says 5.1gr as lowest for the HS6, on the hodgon website they say lowest is 6.0. Not really sure where to go on that either Hodgdon does not list a 124gr lead bullet using HS-6 in the 9mm. Assuming you are loading for a 9mm luger. Their 124gr bullet is jacketed, and your coated bullet should use lead data. Hodgdon lists a 125gr Lead bullet and this is the data you should follow. Your load is well below Hodgdon Minimum for the 125gr lead. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol |
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probably low powder as other's mentioned. I tried a new powder last weekend. It's a test powder from a vendor and I had no data in any book to go off of, other than what the shop told me was starting data. I worked from the lowest on up to the max range, and of course started with the lowest gr powder drop as I started actually shooting them to verify I had no pressure signs etc.. I didn't get reliable feeding until the max range on this powder. Also, it was very sensitive to COL as well, with a longer COL producing unburned powder and crappy groups. Learned a bit this weekend myself :), which isn't surprising since I'm very new at this as well. But now I know what people meant when they talked of unburned powder lol. What a mess for the gun, and it's like a mini version of those confetti poppers they used to sell at the liquor stores when I was younger lol(1970's ish).... Also, check to make sure you dies are set to properly size as other's have mentioned. Plus if your cases have "glock" buldges, you may have to put them through a push through sizer. From the pic though, it doesn't appear that would be the case. I would expect it to chamber, or attempt to, just not fully chamber in that case. Also, not sure if this will help or not, but as I worked up my powder charge ladder, I noticed that once they started to cycle well, but the charge was still a bit low, the slide would often not lock back on the last round. If you get that, you may need just a touch more powder, OR check into decreasing COL if that is safe. Seems to be a balancing game to get the pressures you want. Like rubbing the titties and playing with the kitty  |
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Does the round feel like a mouse fart compared to factory rounds? If so add more powder.
If you want to check your crimp or how much you're reducing the brass down to run a case through your resizing die and check the inside, or outside, diameter of the case and see if it is where you want it to be. EDIT: Is that the new round going in to the chamber? If so it could be your gun doesn't like those bullets or maybe they are short and the case mouth is catching on something or a combination of the gun doesn't like the bullet and the slide isn't going far enough back to have enough energy to push the bullet into the chamber. |
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Hodgdon does not list a 124gr lead bullet using HS-6 in the 9mm. Assuming you are loading for a 9mm luger. Their 124gr bullet is jacketed, and your coated bullet should use lead data. Hodgdon lists a 125gr Lead bullet and this is the data you should follow. Your load is well below Hodgdon Minimum for the 125gr lead. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol Quoted:
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Just started and got this on about 14 out of 50 rounds <a href="http://s247.photobucket.com/user/bhsdriller/media/20150325_162806_zpsw3ovqgpw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg137/bhsdriller/20150325_162806_zpsw3ovqgpw.jpg</a> 124gr blue bullet 5.1gr HS6 1.140" oal Was thinking maybe too low on the powder...not enogh to let the slide cycle fully. Or the oal too long? Hornady manual says 5.1gr as lowest for the HS6, on the hodgon website they say lowest is 6.0. Not really sure where to go on that either Hodgdon does not list a 124gr lead bullet using HS-6 in the 9mm. Assuming you are loading for a 9mm luger. Their 124gr bullet is jacketed, and your coated bullet should use lead data. Hodgdon lists a 125gr Lead bullet and this is the data you should follow. Your load is well below Hodgdon Minimum for the 125gr lead. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol realizing this.....looks like i'm below the minimum they look to be crimped good, the bell is removed from what I can see. But if they're not dropping into the chamber freely I guess they're not. Will go over everything and double check |
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Does the round feel like a mouse fart compared to factory rounds? If so add more powder. If you want to check your crimp or how much you're reducing the brass down to run a case through your resizing die and check the inside, or outside, diameter of the case and see if it is where you want it to be. EDIT: Is that the new round going in to the chamber? If so it could be your gun doesn't like those bullets or maybe they are short and the case mouth is catching on something or a combination of the gun doesn't like the bullet and the slide isn't going far enough back to have enough energy to push the bullet into the chamber. Yes, they felt like a mouse fart lol and from what i'm seeing i'm low on powder This isn't the first round in a magazine, pull slide all the way back and release the first round feeds and fires fine |
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Quoted: Also I have a dillon case gage, can't really find a ton of info on them but is it to be used the same as dropping the finished round into the chamber of a barrel? They get hung up on the case gage...don't freely fall all the way in and freely fall out |
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Use your calipers to check the diameter of the case mouth vs. just below to see if the bell is being removed by your crimp die.
You can measure the diameter of the bullet, then the thickness of the case. The bullet plus 2x the case thickness should equal what you get when you measure the finished bullet at the case mouth. That will essentially show you that crimp die is removing the bell without adding more crimp than necessary. You should drop in and out of the case gauge cleanly. Also, if you're using assorted range brass, some variation in case length will also vary how much bell is removed from the case. If you're set up for the longer ones, a short one will get less crimp. I also believe the charge is too low... |
| back to basics of reloading set your over all loaded cartridge length, then start to work on taper crimp / removing bell, 1/4 turn at a time with that die, when using dies that seat and crip in one stage remove your bullet seater plug and turn 1/4 turn after you feel the die touch the brass, then check in your case gauge, that way your load works in every 9mm, not just that one glock. once they fall in and out with very little resistance your golden, do not over do it. |
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