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2/14/2012 7:01:19 AM EDT
First thing, I don't reload. I've always wanted to, just never got in to it.

So my question....My friend is getting back in to reloading and tells me he read that high brass and low brass shotgun shells are the same. I said "you can't believe everything you read on the internet". So do I just shoot more birds because I think the high brass shells help? Or when rabbit hunting and I load a low brass, then a high brass for the longer second shot if I miss? I assumed high brass has more powder for longer shots. Am I wrong?

Thanks for indulging me.
2/14/2012 7:09:01 AM EDT
[#1]
What matters in shotshell reloading is the internal capacity of the hull.



High or low brass makes no difference in the same brand/type hull.



Just marketing involved with high/low brass.



Get a copy of Lymans Shotshell Manual #5 for how to reload and shotgun hull ID.







Page from Lymans manual mentioned above with hull ID info with a cut away hull.
2/14/2012 9:04:06 AM EDT
[#2]
They're the same, in fact they're not even brass anymore.   Some shells don't even have "brass" at all like Activ shotshells.  I think the high and low brass thing was just a left over from the old days

2/14/2012 9:58:50 AM EDT
[#3]
So basically I'm paying for more shot then right? Or is remington just taking advantage of people with high brass/low brass? My boxes of "high brass"  Rem. Express long range say  1 1/4 oz, shot and my low brass rem. high velocity game loads say 7/8 oz. shot.
And the low brass box actually has a higher FPS 1390, compared to the high brass box with 1330. But then I have a box of remington hypersonic steel for waterfowl that says 1 1/8 shot, 1700 fps.
2/14/2012 10:41:17 AM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


So basically I'm paying for more shot then right? Or is remington just taking advantage of people with high brass/low brass? My boxes of "high brass"  Rem. Express long range say  1 1/4 oz, shot and my low brass rem. high velocity game loads say 7/8 oz. shot.

And the low brass box actually has a higher FPS 1390, compared to the high brass box with 1330. But then I have a box of remington hypersonic steel for waterfowl that says 1 1/8 shot, 1700 fps.


we answered your question on whether the hulls are the same, they are in respect to reloadabilty.  



In the old days the more powerful shells had high brass and target loads, for example didn't.



The shells with the lighter shot loads have a higher FPS because of simple physics.  Just like you can throw a tennis ball faster than a bowling ball, a powder charge can throw a smaller weight of projectiles faster than a larger weight of projectiles.  To throw higher weights of projectiles faster you need more and more powder which means more pressure, eventually exceeding the pressure limit of your firearm, e.g. KABOOM
 
2/14/2012 10:58:33 AM EDT
[#5]
First, let me apologize. I don't think I explained myself quite right. The way he layed it out to me was that if I go to the store and buy a box of each they are the exact same thing except for the base. The amount of shot, powder, everything. He made it out like they charge you more for a high brass shell because people don't know any better. I told him I know they have more shot and I would assume more powder. But you can reload a low brass round with the same amount of powder as a high because the hull doesn't matter. I guess I shouldn't have him reload for me right?

Thanks again for your patience and understanding.
2/14/2012 11:03:35 AM EDT
[#6]
post a link to the two otherwise identical boxes of shotshells, from midwayusa, cabellas or wherever.



The amount of shot could be the same between shot shells, but shot comes in different sizes and hardness of the lead. Some shot is even copper coated.  So you have to factor in size and hardness, not just amount of the shot as well


 
2/14/2012 8:17:58 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


First, let me apologize. I don't think I explained myself quite right. The way he layed it out to me was that if I go to the store and buy a box of each they are the exact same thing except for the base. The amount of shot, powder, everything. He made it out like they charge you more for a high brass shell because people don't know any better.

Not the phrase I would use, I would say "It's what people expect".  Buyers may not be educated. A retailer must sell what people want.

I told him I know they have more shot and I would assume more powder.

Less powder as AssaultRifler explained in his post.

But you can reload a low brass round with the same amount of powder as a high because the hull doesn't matter. I guess I shouldn't have him reload for me right?



Thanks again for your patience and understanding.
Whether you use reloads from him is your choice. Unless he is a licensed reloader, I wouldn't shot anyone's reloads.





 
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