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Posted: 3/15/2015 12:24:27 AM EDT
| So I'm new to the suppressor game and wanted some opinions, I have watched every video on this suppressor and I really like that you can have 1 can for .45 and 9mm with different end caps. Can someone give me a reason not to purchase this can? |
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Quoted: So I'm new to the suppressor game and wanted some opinions, I have watched every video on this suppressor and I really like that you can have 1 can for .45 and 9mm with different end caps. Can someone give me a reason not to purchase this can? If you're new to the suppressor world I highly suggest a full size can. |
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So I'm new to the suppressor game and wanted some opinions, I have watched every video on this suppressor and I really like that you can have 1 can for .45 and 9mm with different end caps. Can someone give me a reason not to purchase this can? If you're new to the suppressor world I highly suggest a full size can. An explanation with your suggestion would be awfully insightful to someone who is new to the suppressor world. |
Some basic research by said newbie would also be welcome. 
Full size vs K has been discussed here at length. Basically, K cans are disappointingly loud to most users unless they go into the purchase with very defined needs for minimal size and weight, and a realistic appreciation for the performance sacrifice they are making. |
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Octane 45K
MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 135.8 (9MM) 136.3 (.40 S&W) 139.8 (.45 ACP) Octane 45 MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 130.4 (9MM) 130.6 (.40 S&W) 132.0 (.45 ACP) K version is 1.65" shorter and 2.7oz lighter. MSRP is $52 less. (SilencerShop has both lengths in stock, K is only $38 less) Link I wouldn't suggest a -K can for a first suppressor. Unless you don't have high expectations (I admit, I was disappointed when I fired my first suppressor. I honestly expected Hollywood James Bond "pew pew" noises) 139dB is still pretty loud when you hear it. Even now, with some 11 cans, I don't find the appeal of the K-cans to be much. They're slightly shorter and suppression levels are quite a bit different due to lack of volume. $52 more ($38 more @ SilencerShop), for the extra suppression and length is worth it IMO. |
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Octane 45K MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 135.8 (9MM) 136.3 (.40 S&W) 139.8 (.45 ACP) Octane 45 MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 130.4 (9MM) 130.6 (.40 S&W) 132.0 (.45 ACP) K version is 1.65" shorter and 2.7oz lighter. MSRP is $52 less. (SilencerShop has both lengths in stock, K is only $38 less) Link I wouldn't suggest a -K can for a first suppressor. Unless you don't have high expectations (I admit, I was disappointed when I fired my first suppressor. I honestly expected Hollywood James Bond "pew pew" noises) 139dB is still pretty loud when you hear it. Even now, with some 11 cans, I don't find the appeal of the K-cans to be much. They're slightly shorter and suppression levels are quite a bit different due to lack of volume. $52 more ($38 more @ SilencerShop), for the extra suppression and length is worth it IMO. Thanks kind sir you are a gentleman and a scholar, this answer had all the information I needed. |
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Octane 45K MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 135.8 (9MM) 136.3 (.40 S&W) 139.8 (.45 ACP) Octane 45 MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 130.4 (9MM) 130.6 (.40 S&W) 132.0 (.45 ACP) K version is 1.65" shorter and 2.7oz lighter. MSRP is $52 less. (SilencerShop has both lengths in stock, K is only $38 less) Link I wouldn't suggest a -K can for a first suppressor. Unless you don't have high expectations (I admit, I was disappointed when I fired my first suppressor. I honestly expected Hollywood James Bond "pew pew" noises) 139dB is still pretty loud when you hear it. Even now, with some 11 cans, I don't find the appeal of the K-cans to be much. They're slightly shorter and suppression levels are quite a bit different due to lack of volume. $52 more ($38 more @ SilencerShop), for the extra suppression and length is worth it IMO. Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. |
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Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. You're making me feel real good about the octane 45 I purchased last week 
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Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. Quoted:
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Octane 45K MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 135.8 (9MM) 136.3 (.40 S&W) 139.8 (.45 ACP) Octane 45 MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 130.4 (9MM) 130.6 (.40 S&W) 132.0 (.45 ACP) K version is 1.65" shorter and 2.7oz lighter. MSRP is $52 less. (SilencerShop has both lengths in stock, K is only $38 less) Link I wouldn't suggest a -K can for a first suppressor. Unless you don't have high expectations (I admit, I was disappointed when I fired my first suppressor. I honestly expected Hollywood James Bond "pew pew" noises) 139dB is still pretty loud when you hear it. Even now, with some 11 cans, I don't find the appeal of the K-cans to be much. They're slightly shorter and suppression levels are quite a bit different due to lack of volume. $52 more ($38 more @ SilencerShop), for the extra suppression and length is worth it IMO. Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. Exactly. |
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Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. Quoted:
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Octane 45K MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 135.8 (9MM) 136.3 (.40 S&W) 139.8 (.45 ACP) Octane 45 MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 130.4 (9MM) 130.6 (.40 S&W) 132.0 (.45 ACP) K version is 1.65" shorter and 2.7oz lighter. MSRP is $52 less. (SilencerShop has both lengths in stock, K is only $38 less) Link I wouldn't suggest a -K can for a first suppressor. Unless you don't have high expectations (I admit, I was disappointed when I fired my first suppressor. I honestly expected Hollywood James Bond "pew pew" noises) 139dB is still pretty loud when you hear it. Even now, with some 11 cans, I don't find the appeal of the K-cans to be much. They're slightly shorter and suppression levels are quite a bit different due to lack of volume. $52 more ($38 more @ SilencerShop), for the extra suppression and length is worth it IMO. Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. And back to the debate, These are the same reasons I was thinking go short. |
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Octane 45K MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 135.8 (9MM) 136.3 (.40 S&W) 139.8 (.45 ACP) Octane 45 MUZZLE AVERAGE DB: 130.4 (9MM) 130.6 (.40 S&W) 132.0 (.45 ACP) K version is 1.65" shorter and 2.7oz lighter. MSRP is $52 less. (SilencerShop has both lengths in stock, K is only $38 less) Link I wouldn't suggest a -K can for a first suppressor. Unless you don't have high expectations (I admit, I was disappointed when I fired my first suppressor. I honestly expected Hollywood James Bond "pew pew" noises) 139dB is still pretty loud when you hear it. Even now, with some 11 cans, I don't find the appeal of the K-cans to be much. They're slightly shorter and suppression levels are quite a bit different due to lack of volume. $52 more ($38 more @ SilencerShop), for the extra suppression and length is worth it IMO. Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. And back to the debate, These are the same reasons I was thinking go short. Why choose long or short when you can have both? When I bought the octane the revolution wasnt out. The revolution gives you the option to choose the length, same price as an octane, 3lug adapter is cheaper and shorter, TiN coated baffles for easier cleaning and backed by a great company. Dont get me wrong, my octane 45 is wicked quiet with some gel and 45s which I use for hunting occasionally but for just going out blasting for me the can is too long. I have no problem being accurate with it and can hit a 12" plate at 100yds with factory sights but the added length/mass makes pistol shooting no fun for me. Its all personal preference. If I was just starting out Id buy a revolution 9 for my HD pistol and skip the 45 can all together. The novelty wore off quick for me buy Ive got friends who shoot the shit out of their pistol cans. My biggest advice I can give to a newbie is dont get too caught up in db numbers as all the quality cans are good. Focus on mounts, size and weight. Ive got a specwsr K, revolution 9 and omega coming even though Ive already got cans that cover those bases. Im just switching to shorter and lighter cans now to get back some of the natural balance of the hosts. |
| I agree with your advice, however we don't have much to go off of from the OP. List of hosts and intent on suppressor ownership would be nice. If OP wants one can that does it all, Octane 45 all day. If OP wants a can for each caliber and has 5-6 different hosts, then caliber-specific would be more practical. |
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So I'm new to the suppressor game and wanted some opinions, I have watched every video on this suppressor and I really like that you can have 1 can for .45 and 9mm with different end caps. Can someone give me a reason not to purchase this can? Dont get the "shorty" K. go with the full size Octane 45. I wish my first pistol can would have been a 45 but I went with a 9mm.. ... I just corrected that problem by buying a Octane 45  full size and sending in the paperwork on Friday. Now I have to wait but it will be nothing like my first can which was 10 months 
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Im at the opposite end. Ive got a dozen cans and all of my recent purchases have been short cans. I used to be a db numbers Nazi but Ive come to realize I hate the extra weight and length. While the difference in suppression is noticeable the short cans still don't hurt my ears and for sure on pistols the extra weight and length is noticeable. If youre really want quiet get a short can and throw 5cc of gel in it. Ive got an octane 45 that I never shoot because it makes pistols handle retarded. Ive got a griffin revolution 9 coming to run in the short configuration so I can actually enjoy shooting pistols again. You're making me feel real good about the octane 45 I purchased last week I freaking love my octane. Buy orings. Now. On their website. I'm trying to find the exact size since its like .10c per oring vs $4 per. My only complaint is finding a way to carry it when out screwing around. Need to have a holster made. I can shoot .45 in my backyard without pissing off the neighbors. Haven't tried 9 through it yet. I haven't experimented with it much, but it serves the purpose I bought it for. Plinking in my backyard range without disturbing people, disposing of pests ( coyotes, bobcats, skunks) in my yard. Shooting the pigs tearing up my yard. It's pretty damn quiet with .45. Edit: I don't have a short can to compare it too, but I'm happy with it. |
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So I have thought more on this discussion. Overnight I have decided either way you cant lose. Octane45 and 45K are both great cans. As a first-suppressor, I would have wanted the best dB reduction possible. However, if youre primarily running 9mm, such as Fiocchi 158gr subs, 45K will still be awesome. The difference either way is minimal.
When I bought my first suppressor for pistol, it was a YHM Cobra M2 9mm. I bought it because it was like $600. Wish I had spent a little more and researched more, but live and learn. |
| The 45k looks like a solid choice IF you expect good (but not great) sound performance. Honestly, though---and I say this as a Si Co fanboy---the Griffin Revolution looks like the better product. The only thing that would make me go with the Octane over the Revolution is my impression that Si Co, as the larger company, is better insulated from changes in the silencer market. For example, if and when 41P is implemented, the industry will take a heavy hit, at least until more states enact shall-sign legislation. Smaller companies may not weather the storm as well as larger ones. A lifetime warranty is only good for the lifetime of the company. |
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Those numbers are impressive. I retract my statement re: Revolution over Octane. The Revolution, according to Silencer Shop's testing, has loud first round pop, and the K configutation is in the low 140s. The Octane 45 k looks like a real winner. |
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