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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Open carry suppressed (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/18/2013 3:43:28 AM EDT
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If your state allows open carry, could you legally open carry with a suppressor attached?
Is a suppressor itself considered a weapon? Sorry for the what might be silly questions, just wanted to get things cleared up before I get my hands on my suppressors that are pending. |
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If your state allows open carry, could you legally open carry with a suppressor attached? No, draws unwanted attention. Is a suppressor itself considered a weapon? YES Sorry for the what might be silly questions, just wanted to get things cleared up before I get my hands on my suppressors that are pending. No Yes, its considered a weapon. |
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If your state allows open carry, could you legally open carry with a suppressor attached? No, draws unwanted attention. Is a suppressor itself considered a weapon? YES Sorry for the what might be silly questions, just wanted to get things cleared up before I get my hands on my suppressors that are pending. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets. I didn't realize rights were about what we NEED. Your attitude towards NFA being OCd sounds just like those who CC and bitch that anyone who OC are just looking for attention. Is it ok if I OC my AR? If so, is there a difference if it has an LL or RDIAS in it? |
So when you use it defensively and the prosecutor says you are a blood thirsty assassin wanna be because you shot a bad guy with a suppressed pistol, let us know how that goes.  But seriously, I wouldn't do it. I think it would open you up to extra scrutiny. I am not saying you shouldn't, more than I am saying I wouldn't.
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I cannot find a holster that will accommodate a mounted silencer well anyway. I do have one but I have to remove the light and red dot. In the holster it looks like a long barreled pistol. If I was coming out of the woods and needed to stop at a rural gas station, I might leave it on just so I did not have to leave it in the car. Would I carry it into say Wal-Mart to go shopping? No.
I try not to attract attention just to keep from ticking off the police officers that I consider friends. Walking around with a Glock in a holster attracts much less attention. Open carrying something that looks like a Ruger BlackHawk with a 10.5" barrel and even the local pro gun people will think your an idiot. I did consider leaving my suppressed 22 in my jacket for a quick run to the store to pick up milk but decided against it. Even though it was concealed, I just did not want the hassle or the extra bulge. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets Quoted:
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No... I can open cary or conceal cary my SBR in my state. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Agree - don't assume Officer Friendly really knows the law. There's that word again. "Need" Why is everyone so obsessed with it? |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets. I didn't realize rights were about what we NEED. Your attitude towards NFA being OCd sounds just like those who CC and bitch that anyone who OC are just looking for attention. Is it ok if I OC my AR? If so, is there a difference if it has an LL or RDIAS in it? FWIW, you cant see if there's an LL or RDIAS in it big difference |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets 
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets Quoted:
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No... I can open cary or conceal cary my SBR in my state. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Agree - don't assume Officer Friendly really knows the law. OH hell,here's somebody ELSE telling us what we NEED. 
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Even some gun-owners want to suggest what other gun-owners NEED to do or have. Haven't we learned anything? Seriously, if any gun owners want to tell me what I "need" and what I don't, they can happily move to a different country instead of screwing up this one. OP, you're in Texas and we don't allow open carry of handguns, as you probably know. That said, if we ever pass it, I wouldn't open carry a suppressed pistol for the sole reason that it would be remarkably inconvenient. How would you even sit in your car? A full-size Glock open carried digs into the seat a little, and with a suppressor it would never happen. Or are you interested in open-carrying a silenced pistol in a shoulder holster?
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I saw a guy carrying a suppressed Glock in a shoulder holster in my local walmart not too long ago. I dont think anyone really noticed or cared. Some people gave it a second glance but most people just assume it is part of the pistol I guess. I appreciated his thoughfullness for my hearing should he had to use it while I was around him though
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets. I didn't realize rights were about what we NEED. Your attitude towards NFA being OCd sounds just like those who CC and bitch that anyone who OC are just looking for attention. Is it ok if I OC my AR? If so, is there a difference if it has an LL or RDIAS in it? FWIW, you cant see if there's an LL or RDIAS in it big difference Probably can't tell a real vs. fake can either. Point is that it shouldn't matter and vilifying one by one is what the anti's have done to whittle away our rights. |
| I think there is a time and place for OC. On a regular basis, OC attracts unwanted attention, good or bad, more attention, I prefer to NOT advertise. Thats me... Would I ever OC suppressed? Perhaps, but not to the mall or retail establishment. Can and should must be considered. Personal preference. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets. I didn't realize rights were about what we NEED. Your attitude towards NFA being OCd sounds just like those who CC and bitch that anyone who OC are just looking for attention. Is it ok if I OC my AR? If so, is there a difference if it has an LL or RDIAS in it? And your attitude sounds like that of a highly imprudent person who can't differentiate beyween something you can do, and something you should. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets. I didn't realize rights were about what we NEED. Your attitude towards NFA being OCd sounds just like those who CC and bitch that anyone who OC are just looking for attention. Is it ok if I OC my AR? If so, is there a difference if it has an LL or RDIAS in it? And your attitude sounds like that of a highly imprudent person who can't differentiate beyween something you can do, and something you should. Haha, ok! 
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets. I didn't realize rights were about what we NEED. Your attitude towards NFA being OCd sounds just like those who CC and bitch that anyone who OC are just looking for attention. Is it ok if I OC my AR? If so, is there a difference if it has an LL or RDIAS in it? And your attitude sounds like that of a highly imprudent person who can't differentiate beyween something you can do, and something you should. +1. |
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Here in NM we can open carry. I have OC a couple of times both times it was IWB with a Full Size M&P40. First time OC to church had a friend's brother point at it and stare for a little while. I noticed what he was sdoing and told him to knock it off. He stopped. The 2nd was to get a bite to eat at a local diner. No one said anything, I was probably more worried about it then everyone else. Granted I was wearing a shirt and tie, that will put most sheeple at ease casue you look "official". Would I do it with a supressor? As said earlier in the woods ya, in town not anything more then from my front door to the car.
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets Quoted:
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No... I can open cary or conceal cary my SBR in my state. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Agree - don't assume Officer Friendly really knows the law. There's that word again. "Need" Why is everyone so obsessed with it? i'm not------>If we have to define our needs as rights, with the premise that our rights are defined by need. Then the argument is that if our rights are based on need, then explain to me the need for Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus. It was her right, not her need. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets Quoted:
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No... I can open cary or conceal cary my SBR in my state. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Agree - don't assume Officer Friendly really knows the law. There's that word again. "Need" Why is everyone so obsessed with it? i'm not------>If we have to define our needs as rights, with the premise that our rights are defined by need. Then the argument is that if our rights are based on need, then explain to me the need for Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus. It was her right, not her need. Maybe she got carsick in the back. A lot of people do. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets Quoted:
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No... I can open cary or conceal cary my SBR in my state. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Agree - don't assume Officer Friendly really knows the law. There's that word again. "Need" Why is everyone so obsessed with it? i'm not------>If we have to define our needs as rights, with the premise that our rights are defined by need. Then the argument is that if our rights are based on need, then explain to me the need for Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus. It was her right, not her need. Maybe she got carsick in the back. A lot of people do. i'm all for the peoples R I G H T S |
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The problem here is that nowhere is it writeen that OC IS a right. It's not legal in several states - and those hard-ass moron OC people can certainly hurt their cause if they piss off enough of the sheeple in their respective states. If you can't see that carrying a NFA item in such a way COULD (not wilkl, but it's certainly possile) conceviably hurt your OC PRIVLEDGES, then you probably also eat dinner with your elbows on the table, swear in front of small children and cut in front of people in line.
Until a court decides that OC is guaranteed via the 2nd, its NOT a right. Don't confuse that with Rosa Parks and her already won court case - and if you're the kind of person that believes that you SHOULD to anything your allowed to do, reguardless of social nicities then you're probably a douchenozzle and I'm glad not to know you. Your mother smells of elderberries. |
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The problem here is that nowhere is it writeen that OC a right. It's not legal in several states - and those hard-ass moron OC people can certainly hurt their cause if they piss off enough of the sheeple in their respective states. If you can't see that carrying a NFA item in such a way COULD (not wilkl, but it's certainly possile) conceviably hurt your OC PRIVLEDGES, then you probably also eat dinner with your elbows on the table, swear in front of small children and cut in front of people in line. Until a court decides that OC is guaranteed via the 2nd, its NOT a right. Don't confuse that with Rosa Parks and her already won court case - and if you're the kind of person that believes that you SHOULD to anything your allowed to do, reguardless of social nicities then you're probably a douchenozzle and I'm glad not to know you. Your mother smells of elderberries. That's not how rights work. Got it, you're one of those that hate people who OC, thinking they only do it for attention. Ya, those are completely comparable. 
How exactly would one have CCd a musket back in the 1700s? The idea that how the Constitution intended us to carry firearms is up for debate is asinine. |
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I think there is a time and place for OC. On a regular basis, OC attracts unwanted attention, good or bad, more attention, I prefer to NOT advertise. Thats me... Would I ever OC suppressed? Perhaps, but not to the mall or retail establishment. Can and should must be considered. Personal preference. What he said. Obviously we all love guns, but there are a lot of people who don't. Think about all the sheep that voted for Obama and who listen to the liberal media talk about "assault weapons." Those are the people who freak out when they see OC and make a scene. Besides the unwanted attention, I wouldn't want to be viewed in public as the "gun nut" that has to walk around town with a holstered gun. We go through enough time and money to get our suppressors. At the end of the day I'm sure the police could stop you and come up with SOMETHING to confiscate/detain you. Would it hold up in court? Probably not, but you would still have to jump through hoops to get out of the situation. |
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If Texas passed OC, I would still never OC. The less Joe Q Public knows about suppressors and NFA, the better IMO. +1 That's my feeling also....I'd rather Joe Q Public view suppressors and NFA items as these "impossible to attain" items that exist n movies....makes it easier for the rest of us to get what we want 
OC'ing a suppressor is just asking for trouble. OC'ing can come with the possibility of getting hassled about it, and to hrow a suppressor in the mix and the likely-hood of an LEO not knowing the law....who knows what could happen...it's a situation I'd rather just avoid. Better off just not doing it. not to mention if heaven forbid you have to use your weapon and not only get your handgun taken away as evidence, but also your coveted can...that would be a sad day. |
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So...if I put my suppressor in my pocket of my cargo shorts, if I don't have a CCW, I am doing something very illegal? I'm not a lawyer and state laws vary. I don't think it's illegal to walk around with a silencer in plain sight or in your pocket, regardless of a CCW/CHL/etc. I don't know of any law restricting the carrying of silencers. So if it's legal to carry the gun, and it's legal to own the silencer... |
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That's not how rights work.
Again bud - you live in wishful thinking land. Go OC in Texas RIGHT NOW and tell me how that works out for you. You can spout useless bullshit all day - but unfortunately for you this is a nation of laws, and just because you dont LIKE the law - doesn't mean you can ignore it. Don't like it - use the political process to get it changed. Got it, you're one of those that hate people who OC, thinking they only do it for attention.
Not at all, I hate the vocal minority of them that ARE doing it only for attention, and are complete douchenozzles about it. Don't bother claiming they aren't out there - they're only a youtube link away. Ya, those are completely comparable.
There are people out there who think all the others are OK too. Using the most incendiary way possible to express your "rights" puts you out there with the guy at the car cruize holding the 4x4 anti-abortion sign with the picture of dead babies on it. Yup - an asshole. How exactly would one have CCd a musket back in the 1700s? The idea that how the Constitution intended us to carry firearms is up for debate is asinine.
I'm sorry you're not intilligent enough to realize that you don't live in the 1700's and that the law may have changed since then. That kind of reasoning is ignorant, or do you not allow your wife to vote and think your black friends should sit in the car behind you? People like you are funny. You can't accept that you have to operate in practical reality, not an idealized version of your own creation. |
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That's not how rights work.
Again bud - you live in wishful thinking land. Go OC in Texas RIGHT NOW and tell me how that works out for you. You can spout useless bullshit all day - but unfortunately for you this is a nation of laws, and just because you dont LIKE the law - doesn't mean you can ignore it. Don't like it - use the political process to get it changed. Got it, you're one of those that hate people who OC, thinking they only do it for attention.
Not at all, I hate the vocal minority of them that ARE doing it only for attention, and are complete douchenozzles about it. Don't bother claiming they aren't out there - they're only a youtube link away. Ya, those are completely comparable.
There are people out there who think all the others are OK too. Using the most incendiary way possible to express your "rights" puts you out there with the guy at the car cruize holding the 4x4 anti-abortion sign with the picture of dead babies on it. Yup - an asshole. How exactly would one have CCd a musket back in the 1700s? The idea that how the Constitution intended us to carry firearms is up for debate is asinine.
I'm sorry you're not intilligent enough to realize that you don't live in the 1700's and that the law may have changed since then. That kind of reasoning is ignorant, or do you not allow your wife to vote and think your black friends should sit in the car behind you? People like you are funny. You can't accept that you have to operate in practical reality, not an idealized version of your own creation. Really? My state doesn't allow OC, so I don't, how is that not accepting reality? That doesn't change my stance. As stated above SC doesn't allow OC, so I don't, but that has nothing to do with you not understanding how rights are supposed to work which is hilarious considering you're attempting to call me unintelligent. I love how you throw digs in at my intelligence left and right, can your points not stand without such attacks? That's a rhetorical question by the way, don't bother answering. Laws may have changed, but the 2nd amendment hasn't. If you can't understand that then you're beyond help. We can't be afraid to exercise our rights for fear of further infringement. You can step down from your imagined intellectual pedestal now, I'm done responding to you. |
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I am highly offended by all the mufflers I see on cars. It's my belief that no one needs to quiet down noisy mechanical devices, and I will shake my finger at you if you insist.
Seriously, my only reason for not regularly carrying a suppressed firearm is practical. It adds at least another 5-6 inches of length to the firearm. Seems like it would slow down your ability to draw it quickly if needed. |
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If Texas passed OC, I would still never OC. The less Joe Q Public knows about suppressors and NFA, the better IMO. +1 That's my feeling also....I'd rather Joe Q Public view suppressors and NFA items as these "impossible to attain" items that exist n movies....makes it easier for the rest of us to get what we want
OC'ing a suppressor is just asking for trouble. OC'ing can come with the possibility of getting hassled about it, and to hrow a suppressor in the mix and the likely-hood of an LEO not knowing the law....who knows what could happen...it's a situation I'd rather just avoid. Better off just not doing it. not to mention if heaven forbid you have to use your weapon and not only get your handgun taken away as evidence, but also your coveted can...that would be a sad day. I have to disagree. Look at how easily much of the ill-informed public is being swayed into thinking "30 round high capacity clips" are dangerous, AR-15s are full-auto killing machines made only for mass shootings, and the .223/5.56 round is "high-powered." If more people were educated on these things, liberals would have a MUCH harder time getting gun control legislation passed. |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets That last sentence sounds straight from Feinsteins playbook... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets That last sentence sounds straight from Feinsteins playbook... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Maybe but... Just remember, there is a 30 year minimum sentence for even HAVING a suppressor at the scene of a crime. Legally registered or not. I wouldnt wanna have to try & defend against that charge. And for that reason my suppressor will never be used for a HD/SD sit |
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I am a firm advocate for Open Carrying, however, I would stop and say something to you if I saw this. Carrying a weapon with a suppressor attached gives all of us who prefer to OC a bad look. There is simply no need to ever have a Class three item on the streets That last sentence sounds straight from Feinsteins playbook... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Incrementalism....it's working for this guy. "...no NEED, no NEED......" Feinstein loves you. |
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Maybe but... Just remember, there is a 30 year minimum sentence for even HAVING a suppressor at the scene of a crime. Legally registered or not. I wouldnt wanna have to try & defend against that charge. And for that reason my suppressor will never be used for a HD/SD sit That's true? |
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Maybe but... Just remember, there is a 30 year minimum sentence for even HAVING a suppressor at the scene of a crime. Legally registered or not. I wouldnt wanna have to try & defend against that charge. And for that reason my suppressor will never be used for a HD/SD sit That's true? Doesnt mattersince self defense is not a crime. Dont commit crimes, no worries. |
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If your state allows open carry, could you legally open carry with a suppressor attached? I could, but fuck no, I wouldn't. I like to play a game called "District Attorney". I ask myself, how could the DA ass fuck me for doing this? Attaching a silencer would show intent to shoot someone surreptitiously. It could be shown in court that you were attempting a murder. A jury could be easily persuaded that this is true. Why would you want to carry with a silencer? It makes the weapon unweildy for swift presentation and makes it less reliable. It also makes it hard as hell to conceal, and makes it difficult to sit. One is forced to wonder what your motivation is with regards to carrying it as an EDC. It seems like something an unbalanced individual or a child might do. Lastly, if you do this, and you start a shit storm, you will be setting us all back in terms of getting these laws loosened. It is a stupid idea for a number of reasons. Don't do it, |
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Please tell that to George Zimmerman......ALWAYS keep in mind that a self defense killing is a homicide until some person/persons decide is was justifiable homicide under the law, you are at risk of it becoming a serious criminal charge. PEOPLE make the decisions, including juries, based on a wide variety of life background, bias, prejuice, personal experience, personal opinions and agendas, level of understanding, culuture, etc, etc. Give yourself the BEST chance of NOT appearing to be a bad guy in any way. Regardless of what YOUR or WE think, having a silencer on any weapon used in a shooting WILL give you more obstacles to overcome in almost any conceivable circumstance, unless you just happened to save a school full of six year olds from an invading army of north koreans....
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Please tell that to George Zimmerman......ALWAYS keep in mind that a self defense killing is a homicide until some person/persons decide is was justifiable homicide under the law, you are at risk of it becoming a serious criminal charge. PEOPLE make the decisions, including juries, based on a wide variety of life background, bias, prejuice, personal experience, personal opinions and agendas, level of understanding, culuture, etc, etc. Give yourself the BEST chance of NOT appearing to be a bad guy in any way. Regardless of what YOUR or WE think, having a silencer on any weapon used in a shooting WILL give you more obstacles to overcome in almost any conceivable circumstance, unless you just happened to save a school full of six year olds from an invading army of north koreans.... Quoted:
Doesnt mattersince self defense is not a crime. Dont commit crimes, no worries. There is a difference between someone looking for confrontation and one that avoids it. Zimmerman was in the wrong, which is why he is in the position he is. |
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