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Posted: 1/4/2013 8:37:32 PM EDT
| Since PTR can manage to produce a low cost HK91 with the PTR91GI why can't they manage to produce an MP5 at the same price point? |
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Didn't they make a 9mm carbine called the lusa or something like that for a few years that flopped hard? I can imagine that and maybe getting financialy stable from switching from jld to ptr has meant product diversification is slow. I also remember a .243 ptr which didn't sell well, 7.62/39 seems to be there biggest deviation that has done well so far, im sure if the political climate doesn't hamper their ability to do sales at some point they will come out with more cool stuff I mean they gotta be selling em as fast as they can crank em out currently.. Maybe they can use that capital to diversify some latter on.
Well at least I hope they do im a big fan of their products so far, and though im not much of a pistol caliber carbine guy if they made one or a hk33 type that took ar mags I would probably be in hard core ;). The dream would be if they started churning out slightly modernized g41 clones that would be pretty sweet but I doubt that will ever happen 
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Sucks. I love my CA89, and it s a Todd Bailey special. Imagine how happy I'd be with a good version. That's just mean. I'd find the guy I got it from and kick him in the nads really hard. Just make sure he's unarmed first.  Hahaha! I never said I got a bad deal! I feel I got a great deal! The gun runs, the builder is who sucks. 
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| I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. |
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I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. how about 45acp make it take grease gun mags hehe
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I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. F*************************K 
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id be all over one that take AR mags (PTR41?). As in I'd put a deposit down tomorrow
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They likely do not have the tooling necessary for the task. They've never introduced an HK93 clone as well due to the same reason.. That's just a WAG on my part... I would love to see a PTR 93 Patience, I dont think it will be long.... |
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id be all over one that take AR mags (PTR41?). As in I'd put a deposit down tomorrow
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They likely do not have the tooling necessary for the task. They've never introduced an HK93 clone as well due to the same reason.. That's just a WAG on my part... I would love to see a PTR 93 Patience, I dont think it will be long.... I have one. Thinking about converting it to 300blk. |
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I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. I've heard the same thing, but I forget why there was such an agreement. |
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I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. I've heard the same thing, but I forget why there was such an agreement. A guess would be because at the time the tooling was acquired HK produced HK94/mp5s and HK93s or still held/holds the patent/trademark/whatever. The HK91/G3 is probably like the AR and AK is right now where anyone can make them no licensing required. Remember HK went after ATI, successfully, because their GSG5 looked too much like an mp5; they also went after other mp5 clone builders, semi successfully, like Vector. As someone else pointed out there maybe hope for a PTR93 since I'm sure the trademark/whatever ran out on the HK93s. CAI just put out several clones here recently without legal issue. HK still makes MP5 I think so there maybe a LONG wait for those from someone like PTR. |
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I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. I've heard the same thing, but I forget why there was such an agreement. A guess would be because at the time the tooling was acquired HK produced HK94/mp5s and HK93s or still held/holds the patent/trademark/whatever. The HK91/G3 is probably like the AR and AK is right now where anyone can make them no licensing required. Remember HK went after ATI, successfully, because their GSG5 looked too much like an mp5; they also went after other mp5 clone builders, semi successfully, like Vector. As someone else pointed out there maybe hope for a PTR93 since I'm sure the trademark/whatever ran out on the HK93s. CAI just put out several clones here recently without legal issue. HK still makes MP5 I think so there maybe a LONG wait for those from someone like PTR. I though HK just recently discontinued the mp5? |
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I know from an inside source that when they bought the tooling that they were specifically restricted from producing rifles in certain calibers as part of the agreement. 9mm is one of them. So as much as we would like PTR to build an mp5 since they are completely set up and capable of doing it, it will never happen. I've heard the same thing, but I forget why there was such an agreement. A guess would be because at the time the tooling was acquired HK produced HK94/mp5s and HK93s or still held/holds the patent/trademark/whatever. The HK91/G3 is probably like the AR and AK is right now where anyone can make them no licensing required. Remember HK went after ATI, successfully, because their GSG5 looked too much like an mp5; they also went after other mp5 clone builders, semi successfully, like Vector. As someone else pointed out there maybe hope for a PTR93 since I'm sure the trademark/whatever ran out on the HK93s. CAI just put out several clones here recently without legal issue. HK still makes MP5 I think so there maybe a LONG wait for those from someone like PTR. I though HK just recently discontinued the mp5? Their webiste still shows them listed http://www.hk-usa.com/military_products/mil_submachine.asp |
| I wonder if HK would ever discontinue the MP5? I was just thinking about this the other day, someone in my family mentioned it, and they are not a "gun person" so this piqued my curioustiy and they told me "Doesn't everyone know what a MP5 is?!" I think the MP5 is HK's signature model. Don't know what they would replace it with. Seems to me there are so many of them out there, they will continue to have to support them. |
*Puts on dunce cap and sits in time out in the corner*  Sheesh im batting a thousand at being wrong in this thread. Doing some googleing apparently HK has been trying to kill the mp5 for awhile and have people buy the cheaper to produce ump's but enough people have said no, and ordered more mp5s that they haven't been able to do so even after killing the rest of their roller lock line up. To be honest im surprised there aren't more roller lock designs out there. I know I feel in love with the simplicity of it after getting my first ptr91 and it was reinforced when I got a second.
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