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3/3/2013 5:41:50 AM EDT
I set up a small Parkerizing station using Brownells chemicals. Followed their instruction to the letter with good results. However, I would like to see a darker (more black, less gray) color. I tried different surface prep variants (AO & glass bead) and adjusted (longer) dip times. No luck. Any ideas?
3/3/2013 3:44:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Lauer and Shooter's  make pre-dip blackener. I use Lauers black manganese solution.  How dark the manganese phosphate parkerizing gets depends on the type of steel. Same solution varies from dark gray to full black sometimes. I have not tried the pre-dip products though. Also, the first couple of batches were lighter...did you "season" with a ball of clean steel wool?
3/3/2013 4:43:01 PM EDT
[#2]
I didn't use steel wool. I used the atomized steel that Brownell's sells. Thanks for the Lauer tip. I will order a gallon in the morning. Can you reuse the blackener over many jobs or is it once and dump?
3/3/2013 7:10:10 PM EDT
[#3]
I've never used any of the pre-dip solutions. I've been happy with the results using Lauer's black manganese Parkerizing solutions.
3/5/2013 2:02:18 AM EDT
[#4]
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I set up a small Parkerizing station using Brownells chemicals. Followed their instruction to the letter with good results. However, I would like to see a darker (more black, less gray) color. I tried different surface prep variants (AO & glass bead) and adjusted (longer) dip times. No luck. Any ideas?


The first batch of new chemicals usually come out light gray for me.  I think the solution needs to be seasoned.  I also degrease a small piece of steel wool and drop it in the new solution.  I bring the heat up slowly and let the chemicals/heat do its thing to the steel wool.  I then let the solution cool all the way down and park several hours later or the next day when the solution is cold.

I get very good results when I AO blast the parts and degrease.  I set the temp on the burners pretty low and place the parts in.  If I drop the parts in the tank as the solution is getting up to temp (170-185 degrees), the dwell time for the parts to darken actually decrease.  If the solution gets over 190, the parts do not react with the chemicals anymore.  That's why I keep the temps lower so the acid solution has more time to adhere.  Depending on how many parts I have, I get several runs of parts before the park lightens up.

BTW, I use Maganese Phosphate instead of Zinc, phosphate....
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