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6/7/2006 6:51:25 PM EDT
Okay, I didn't want to piss in anybodys cornflakes so I thought it better to move it here.





WTF is that?

Seriously.

Okay, I have been IMHO one of the big defenders of this gun for a good long while. From the weight, to the ejection, to the price. Everything was acceptable in my opinion. But what is this?

Can anybody tell me what possible purpose a plastic group could serve?

In a Glock they use plastics to cut weight and absorb recoil. On the stock of an AR plastics provide a tough warp free surface resistant to all kinds of stuff. They have their purposes.

The trigger group is such a small (and incredibly important) part of the gun I have a hard time seeing how plastics could be used to cut anything other than costs.




* I have one of these coming, which is why I am concerned.
6/7/2006 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Modern "engineering grade" plastics do have some advantages:
Lighter.
Self lubricating.
No rust.
If hit, it flexes and returns to shape instead of deforming or breaking.
It can be molded in very complex shapes.
There's no finish to wear off and get ratty looking.
Can be made in just about any color needed.
No metal particles flaking or shaving off to cause problems.
No burrs.

And...... fairly cheap, EXCEPT, the molds cost BIG money, and the manufacturer has to recoup the cost of manufacturing the mold.  This is why plastic gun parts aren't WAY cheaper than metal.
6/7/2006 10:52:29 PM EDT
[#2]
The Beretta Storm carbine has a plastic hammer, etc. , and I haven't heard of any problems with them.  There are people that have tens of thousands of rounds through them, some of them on this site I believe.
6/8/2006 4:12:50 AM EDT
[#3]
The HK UMP and the HK USC also use plastic. Not heard of any problems with them. But I dont think these guns will last as long as others that are not plastic. But I think for the average shooter these guns will last a life time.
 It's good for companies like HK and FN, when you have to replace your guns more often. ie police and miltary.
Plastic is cheaper to make then milling and maching metal.

Just a thought
6/8/2006 4:17:36 AM EDT
[#4]
Steyr AUG, introduced in 1977 utilizes a plastic trigger group. I havent read negative reports about the gun.
6/8/2006 4:20:56 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Steyr AUG, introduced in 1977 utilizes a plastic trigger group. I havent read negative reports about the gun.



+1

I have two Steyr AUGs, a HK USC, and Beretta Storm in the safe and have had zero problems with a polymer trigger group.
6/8/2006 3:44:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Hey, do I get a royalty for the use of my pic?

Don't fret the plastic. Its made out of advanced space age polymer man!!. Thats what Glock used to say back in the late 80's when the G17 came out. LOL

Having said that, unless the hammer starts to deform from striking the firing pin after thousands of rounds, I wouldn't sweat this. If FN thought this would be a High failure item, then it would have been made out of metal. Now if some aftermarket CO comes out with an All, or mostly metal group, I'd probably give it some attention...
6/8/2006 3:54:35 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Hey, do I get a royalty for the use of my pic?

Don't fret the plastic. Its made out of advanced space age polymer man!!. Thats what Glock used to say back in the late 80's when the G17 came out. LOL

Having said that, unless the hammer starts to deform from striking the firing pin after thousands of rounds, I wouldn't sweat this. If FN thought this would be a High failure item, then it would have been made out of metal. Now if some aftermarket CO comes out with an All, or mostly metal group, I'd probably give it some attention...



I will send you some Wolf ammo.

Sigh..............

Guess I will adjust. Soon as I get it in my hands I will probably forget all about it anyway.
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