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Posted: 7/5/2012 5:30:29 AM EDT
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How heavy are your Level IV Stand-Alone Rifle Plates?
Thanks, Algo |
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Just pulled my Global Armour Plates out of the Pig. Weighed them on my Tanita digital scales. Dead on 7 lbs. STAND ALONE LEVEL IV CERAMIC PLATES MODEL: STAND ALONE (Serial and Lot omitted by me) Size: 250 x 300mm MFD: 07/10 Date of Issue: 07/10 Ballistic Protection Level: LEVEL IV Standard of Compliance: NIJ STD-0101.04 Bullet Velocity M/SEC 878 Nominal Bullet Mass (Gram) 166 (typo for grains?) Bullet Type 30.03.m2 AP Here's the funny part. The same damned label contradicts itself, when it refers to it being STAND ALONE at the top, and then follows on with this warning: WARNING! This ceramic protective plate provides protection against the above stated ballistic protection level ONLY when used in conjunction with Level III-A soft armour.  That seems a little silly. |
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Just pulled my Global Armour Plates out of the Pig. Weighed them on my Tanita digital scales.
Dead on 7 lbs.
STAND ALONE LEVEL IV CERAMIC PLATES
MODEL: STAND ALONE (Serial and Lot omitted by me)
Size: 250 x 300mm
MFD: 07/10
Date of Issue: 07/10
Ballistic Protection Level: LEVEL IV
Standard of Compliance: NIJ STD-0101.04
Bullet Velocity M/SEC 878 Nominal Bullet Mass (Gram)166 (typo for grains?) Bullet Type 30.03.m2 AP
Here's the funny part. The same damned label contradicts itself, when it refers to it being STAND ALONE at the top, and then follows on with this warning:
WARNING!
This ceramic protective plate provides protection against the above stated ballistic protection level ONLY when used in conjunction with Level III-A soft armour.
That seems a little silly.
Only if you don't include .30 cal AP rounds, which usually require soft armor ICW plates that are rated to protect against them. |
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Quoted: Only if you don't include .30 cal AP rounds, which usually require soft armor ICW plates that are rated to protect against them. Ah, so you reckon that means it is indeed stand-alone Level IV against rifle rounds, but also needs soft armour against the big, nasty AP ammo like .30-06 M2? Fair enough, that makes sense. |
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Only if you don't include .30 cal AP rounds, which usually require soft armor ICW plates that are rated to protect against them. Ah, so you reckon that means it is indeed stand-alone Level IV against rifle rounds, but also needs soft armour against the big, nasty AP ammo like .30-06 M2?
Fair enough, that makes sense.
Something isn't adding up here. Level IV is specific to .30 cal AP rounds. |
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Something isn't adding up here. Level IV is specific to .30 cal AP rounds. Oh, okay. So the plate specs are still contradictory, then. Doh!
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That label directly contradicts itself. It cannot be an NIJ stand-alone level IV and require III-A backing to stop the designated M2AP. |
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Something isn't adding up here. Level IV is specific to .30 cal AP rounds. Oh, okay. So the plate specs are still contradictory, then. Doh!
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That label directly contradicts itself. It cannot be an NIJ stand-alone level IV and require III-A backing to stop the designated M2AP. What they are saying is, is that it is a stand alone plate. But if you want 30-06 Armor Peircig protection, then you need some extra protection, such as soft armor. It's rated as a Level IV stand alone And it's also rated to take 30-06 AP hits as long as there is soft armor protection behind the plate. 7.62 FMJ ball and .30-06 M2 AP are like apples and oranges |
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What they are saying is, is that it is a stand alone plate. But if you want 30-06 Armor Peircig protection, then you need some extra protection, such as soft armor. It's rated as a Level IV stand alone And it's also rated to take 30-06 AP hits as long as there is soft armor protection behind the plate. 7.62 FMJ ball and .30-06 M2 AP are like apples and oranges Level IV is .30-06 AP protection. That's it. It's not rated to stop anything else. It will stop other things, but it's not rated for anything else. A level IV stand alone plate that needs a backer to stop .30-06 AP isn't a level IV stand alone plate. It's a level IV ICW plate. Period. It doesn't matter if it stops .308/7.62 FMJ without the backer, it's not a level IV stand alone plate. Cromlech, I would say to call the manufacturer if you want to know, but it seems like it's just an ICW plate to me. |
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Quoted: Cromlech, I would say to call the manufacturer if you want to know, but it seems like it's just an ICW plate to me. Thank you for all the information, guys. I've actually had soft armour panels sat in the PIG, anyway. I found some kevlar backers, that while not designed for it (ITAR obviously means that I could not get the backers from SKD as well as the carrier), would still fit nicely in the PIG soft armour pockets. Of course this is all just masturbatory bullshit for someone like myself, my chances of needing the plate carrier are slim to none, unless I go crazy and end up trying to be like a British Punisher, who likes Tea and Scones. |
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