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4/7/2013 6:22:20 PM EDT
I've been looking at ideas for powder storage.  I know a locked safe is NOT a good idea, and it seems the best is either a wood box with 1 inch thick walls, or, the same box lined with gypsum board (sheetrock) for additional fire protection.  All while having a top that can "let off the pressure" if there was a source of ignition.  So my question is this, does anyone use or does anyone know reasons why a safe such as the sentry fireproof safes, can't be used for powder storage?  Seems like if you could modify to door so when it locked it was "loose" or even left the safe unlocked, that the pressure could be released if the worst happened.  Comments?
4/7/2013 6:25:43 PM EDT
[#1]
SAFE=BOMB

Go with the wooden box.  Powder magazines in the mining industry are wood (and other materials) for a reason.
4/7/2013 8:19:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Wouldn't be fireproof, wouldn't be heat resistant, wouldn't protect against water or even humidity damage . . . why do that when powder doesn't belong in there in the first place?
4/7/2013 9:05:40 PM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


Wouldn't be fireproof, wouldn't be heat resistant, wouldn't protect against water or even humidity damage . . . why do that when powder doesn't belong in there in the first place?


I'm not understanding.  I dont mean my regular gun safe, I mean one of these

 



4/7/2013 9:18:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes, that looks like a bomb if you store powder in it.
4/8/2013 2:33:19 AM EDT
[#5]
Saami has a brochure on powder storage, basically a wooden box with 1" thick walls, constructed so as to allow easy venting.

A safe is not a good idea.
4/8/2013 3:53:16 AM EDT
[#6]
The volume inside my safe is a very valuable thing to me.  Why the heck would I take up that space with something that is relatively inexpensive and easily replaced?  I just don't understand why putting powder in a safe would serve any purpose.
4/8/2013 6:04:48 AM EDT
[#7]
Explosives Storage Requirements   http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/explosive-storage-requirements.html This does not apply to powders for reloading, but has good info for storage.
4/8/2013 4:10:57 PM EDT
[#8]





Quoted:



Saami has a brochure on powder storage, basically a wooden box with 1" thick walls, constructed so as to allow easy venting.





A safe is not a good idea.



I know about the locked safe which is why I worte it in the OP.  I was going to build a gypsum lined wood box as has been detailed in a lot of reloading forums.  What I don;t understand is the difference be between this "file cabinet safe" (unlocked) and a wooden box?  The top can open on both of them to vent.  The file cabinet safe is not really a safe.
4/8/2013 4:15:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Yes you can put it in the safe. Just make sure the safe is under your bed. Now you don't have to worry about the safe catching on fire because you will already be outside or dead.
 



IM inbound. dryflash3
4/8/2013 4:37:27 PM EDT
[#10]
Getting like GD in here.


4/8/2013 5:22:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Wouldn't be fireproof, wouldn't be heat resistant, wouldn't protect against water or even humidity damage . . . why do that when powder doesn't belong in there in the first place?

I'm not understanding.  I dont mean my regular gun safe, I mean one of these  

You asked why a fireproof safe can't be used . . . it's because its fireproof. With that kind of seal, it is a bomb if the powder inside goes off. There are cheap, plastic, lockable document storage devices . . . ones where the top and case do not make a good sel . . . that might be useable, especailly if you cut some holes in them.
4/8/2013 5:22:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Op,

The reason the wood box is safer than a gun safe or a document safe w/lid unlocked is one or more of these:

The wood box allows presure to excape at lower pressures.
The wood box allows presure to excape evenly in ALL directions if need be.
The wood box creates smaller, lighter, softer, less leathal projectiles should it explode.

With the document safe, should something occure, that lid is basically going to be a large, flate bullet with the rest of the safe being the barrel and bolt.
4/8/2013 6:20:36 PM EDT
[#13]
No more GD posts in this thread, IM sent to offender. dryflash3
4/8/2013 6:23:48 PM EDT
[#14]




Built this box with 1 inch thick boards and finish nails so sides could come apart easily.








This is a primer box, powder box would just have to be a little higher.
4/9/2013 4:37:42 AM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


Op,



The reason the wood box is safer than a gun safe or a document safe w/lid unlocked is one or more of these:



The wood box allows presure to excape at lower pressures.

The wood box allows presure to excape evenly in ALL directions if need be.

The wood box creates smaller, lighter, softer, less leathal projectiles should it explode.



With the document safe, should something occure, that lid is basically going to be a large, flate bullet with the rest of the safe being the barrel and bolt.
What I was looking for.  Thanks.  I never intended to use a "real" fireproof safe, just one of those cheap sentry ones.





 
4/9/2013 4:38:20 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Primer%20Magazine/P4290848.jpg



Built this box with 1 inch thick boards and finish nails so sides could come apart easily.








This is a primer box, powder box would just have to be a little higher.


This is what I was thinking of building, except two layers of wood with sheetrock sandwiched between.  I guess I have another project now.

 


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