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9/19/2010 5:50:30 PM EDT
Would their be a softer primer than a silver colored Win LP. I own a 45 that sometimes fails to pop the primer because of a soft strike. Factory 45s with brass colored ones go bang always.
9/19/2010 6:43:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Federal primers are generally easier to ignite, but I think I would repair my pistol so it would fire any ammo.

Have you tried a new or extra power firing pin spring?
9/19/2010 7:23:40 PM EDT
[#2]
To be technically correct, primers aren't hard or soft, but are more or less sensitive, it is generally agreed that Federal primers are the most sensitive of the major brands.  I had one custom target pistol that was set up to only use Federal primers, any other brand of primer wouldn't fire reliably, of course this was long before the primer shortages.
9/19/2010 7:56:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Federal primers are generally easier to ignite, but I think I would repair my pistol so it would fire any ammo.

Have you tried a new or extra power firing pin spring?


+1

I would want to know why my gun was not setting them off also.
9/19/2010 8:52:22 PM EDT
[#4]
As long as we are talking about primer "hardness" or sensitivity, I have some questions.

I understand that it is generally considered ok to use a small rifle primer in a small pistol application. Im going to be making another primer order from wideners soon, and they are out of small pistol primers (wolf) right now. I was wondering if it would be ok to use the Wolf small rifle magnum (for 5.56) primers instead?  Will a Glock 34 have the oomph to kick these primers off?

Im currently loading minor (9mm) with 147grn bullets, and WST.  Its a light shooting load that leaves plenty of soot on the cases, so I dont think I would have a problem with too much pressure from the hotter primer...?  

Obviously I will have to work this load up again, and then bug my buddy about borrowing his chronograph, and then test velocity in different temps....  actually, I might just wait until wideners has SPs back in stock.
9/20/2010 5:39:38 AM EDT
[#5]
The pistol is a Tarus 24/7 45 I'm satisifed with it shooting the factory ammo as that is all that will be carried in it. Still would like to run reloads in it for practice.
9/20/2010 4:39:46 PM EDT
[#6]
A lot ignition problems can be related to poor seating of the primer itself.

Home gunsmithing can cause problems....

Most professional gunsmiths will do "Carry" trigger jobs that will ignite everything, verus a "Gamer/Competition" trigger job which may marry say a revolver to Federal Primers...
9/20/2010 5:46:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
To be technically correct, primers aren't hard or soft, but are more or less sensitive, it is generally agreed that Federal primers are the most sensitive of the major brands.  I had one custom target pistol that was set up to only use Federal primers, any other brand of primer wouldn't fire reliably, of course this was long before the primer shortages.


I don't think that's entirely correct. I believe that I read the thickness of the cup varies between manufacturers, as well as the actual hardness of the metal they're stamped from.
9/20/2010 5:53:21 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
To be technically correct, primers aren't hard or soft, but are more or less sensitive, it is generally agreed that Federal primers are the most sensitive of the major brands.  I had one custom target pistol that was set up to only use Federal primers, any other brand of primer wouldn't fire reliably, of course this was long before the primer shortages.


I don't think that's entirely correct. I believe that I read the thickness of the cup varies between manufacturers, as well as the actual hardness of the metal they're stamped from.


They're made of brass, the cups are.  I guess if you have a slightly thicker cup, say XXX thousanths of an inch, it might be 'harder' to hit, but we're not talking much.

Many people believe that the CCI MilSpec primers are 'harder' and hence, don't detonate as easily, mostly due to material hardness, or thickness, but they're actually less sensitive due to anvil geometry.

Chris

9/21/2010 6:55:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
As long as we are talking about primer "hardness" or sensitivity, I have some questions.

I understand that it is generally considered ok to use a small rifle primer in a small pistol application. Im going to be making another primer order from wideners soon, and they are out of small pistol primers (wolf) right now. I was wondering if it would be ok to use the Wolf small rifle magnum (for 5.56) primers instead?  Will a Glock 34 have the oomph to kick these primers off?

Im currently loading minor (9mm) with 147grn bullets, and WST.  Its a light shooting load that leaves plenty of soot on the cases, so I dont think I would have a problem with too much pressure from the hotter primer...?  

Obviously I will have to work this load up again, and then bug my buddy about borrowing his chronograph, and then test velocity in different temps....  actually, I might just wait until wideners has SPs back in stock.


SR used as SP - 1911Smith did it, but I never have - yet
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