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1/2/2014 11:19:39 AM EDT
I have a number of bolt action 308's.  Really nice guns.  Three of them have a 1 in 10 twist and the other has a 1 in 12.
I also have four 223 bolt action rifles.  Here the rates of twist are 1 in 8, 1 in 9 and 1 in 12.

What I'd appreciate help on is, first, what bullet weights would you recommend for these two?  I'd like to use only one bullet per cartridge.
And, second, is there a single  powder that would work well in both the 223 and 308?
1/2/2014 11:30:48 AM EDT
[#1]
for the .308 something between 150 and 168g should be ok.
as for the 223, you're stuck with lighter bullets like 55g since you have the 1/12.

anyway do your own test before taking a decision since not all barrels are equal.
1/2/2014 11:37:05 AM EDT
[#2]
175/178 for the 10 twist .308
175 was fine in my 1:12 308
1/2/2014 6:30:08 PM EDT
[#3]
Just so you know, the weight of the bullet has no relationship to the twist rate and vice versa. The ONLY factors you need to know is:
velocity of the bullet
LENGTH of the bullet (not weight)
twist rate

There is a formula called the Greenhill Twist Rate formula:

where:
C = 150 (use 180 for muzzle velocities higher than 2,800 f/s)
D = bullet's diameter in inches
L = bullet's length in inches
SG = bullet's specific gravity (10.9 for lead-core bullets, which cancels out the second half of the equation)
1/3/2014 5:20:30 AM EDT
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Just so you know, the weight of the bullet has no relationship to the twist rate and vice versa. The ONLY factors you need to know is:
velocity of the bullet
LENGTH of the bullet (not weight)
twist rate

There is a formula called the Greenhill Twist Rate formula:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/8/9/d897ff3697a3bbde34972528dbaf3dc4.png
where:
C = 150 (use 180 for muzzle velocities higher than 2,800 f/s)
D = bullet's diameter in inches
L = bullet's length in inches
SG = bullet's specific gravity (10.9 for lead-core bullets, which cancels out the second half of the equation)
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Thanks!  Any idea as to how to come up with a bullet's length?
1/3/2014 6:08:47 AM EDT
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Thanks!  Any idea as to how to come up with a bullet's length?
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Just so you know, the weight of the bullet has no relationship to the twist rate and vice versa. The ONLY factors you need to know is:
velocity of the bullet
LENGTH of the bullet (not weight)
twist rate

There is a formula called the Greenhill Twist Rate formula:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/8/9/d897ff3697a3bbde34972528dbaf3dc4.png
where:
C = 150 (use 180 for muzzle velocities higher than 2,800 f/s)
D = bullet's diameter in inches
L = bullet's length in inches
SG = bullet's specific gravity (10.9 for lead-core bullets, which cancels out the second half of the equation)


Thanks!  Any idea as to how to come up with a bullet's length?



http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/lengths/lengths.shtml

once you have the length use this to calculate stability

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi
1/3/2014 6:59:49 AM EDT
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Just so you know, the weight of the bullet has no relationship to the twist rate and vice versa. The ONLY factors you need to know is:
velocity of the bullet
LENGTH of the bullet (not weight)
twist rate

There is a formula called the Greenhill Twist Rate formula:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/8/9/d897ff3697a3bbde34972528dbaf3dc4.png
where:
C = 150 (use 180 for muzzle velocities higher than 2,800 f/s)
D = bullet's diameter in inches
L = bullet's length in inches
SG = bullet's specific gravity (10.9 for lead-core bullets, which cancels out the second half of the equation)
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This is especially a big deal for Barnes bullets
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