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Posted: 12/18/2014 2:20:28 PM EDT
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I bought some pull down primers, and have reloaded them. Got a couple of Failure to Fire. Noticed that the 'height' of these are 0.1085", where as a WSR is 0.120". I'm hand priming them to ensure they are flush. Anyone have anymore luck doing something different? Thanks |
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While I do shoot all sorts of pulldown components, bullets, primed brass, powder.... I have to admit I would not be interested in pulldown primers.
This is , quite frankly, the first I have ever it.... and I have been reloading for decades. I assume these are Boxer primers ?... not Berdan. This link shows common primer dimensions... so yours aren't to far out of bounds... http://www.radomski.us/njhp/cart_tech.htm |
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Quoted: I bought some pull down primers, and have reloaded them. Got a couple of Failure to Fire. Noticed that the 'height' of these are 0.1085", where as a WSR is 0.120". I'm hand priming them to ensure they are flush. Anyone have anymore luck doing something different? Thanks Primers should be seated .002 to .003 below flush. Flush seated is too high. Did primers fire on second strike? How do you know you got the primers you needed? What size primer? Rifle or Pistol? Not enough info to help you. |
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Thanks for the quick replies. I looked at them again...my WSR's (from the Blue box, and were purchased from the shop) measure about 0.1125". The anvil is sticking up a little and I WAS measuring from the primer base to the top of the anvil...not the top of the cup. Thanks for the link! The "pull down" primers I have were purchased at an auction, from a known rifle guy - so I had no inclination to question him about these primers. They are a dark grey, has a slight red ring on the bottom of the cup - where the red ring is on crimped military rounds are. Other than that, they look normal. Anvil has the three legs, red color on the inside - WSR's have green. I have not had a slam fire yet...only failure to fire. Have re-chambered those rounds and they fired fine. Purchased these at a 'good' price. Will only use these for practice/plunking....and I guess also to practice my failure to fire drills! Once in the press, I do, at minimum, try to push them up just a bit, but not too much. Wonder if these are Russian? Thanks |
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I used a couple hundred primers that I pulled down from some .223 commercial reloads in blue boxes...75% of which had neck cracks. I used everything but the brass, and they were fine.
I've used a handful from "Israeli battlefield pickup ammo" that I pulled down...at one time this stuff came into the country by the barrel, but it was real crap. Most of the primers went bang later in new brass, but it wasn't worth the effort. 
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| primers are too cheap to go cheap on.. especially for all the work it takes on rifle brass. Each one that doesn't go boom is more work for you. I have stopped buying Winchester primers due to issues I have had in recent years. I absolutely hate pulling bullets and refuse to spend money on anything more than my cheap impact bullet puller. |
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Primers should be seated .002 to .003 below flush. Flush seated is too high. Did primers fire on second strike? How do you know you got the primers you needed? I would be to worried about this to use "pulled" primers. What size primer? Rifle or Pistol? Not enough info to help you. Quoted:
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I bought some pull down primers, and have reloaded them. Got a couple of Failure to Fire. Noticed that the 'height' of these are 0.1085", where as a WSR is 0.120". I'm hand priming them to ensure they are flush. Anyone have anymore luck doing something different? Thanks Primers should be seated .002 to .003 below flush. Flush seated is too high. Did primers fire on second strike? How do you know you got the primers you needed? I would be to worried about this to use "pulled" primers. What size primer? Rifle or Pistol? Not enough info to help you. |
| When a Boxer primer is seated, the anvil is pushed farther into the cup. That's what you feel when you seat it, and this is true even of machine-seated primers. "Pulled" primers must have been punched out, which means that not only have their anvils been pre-stressed in seating, but they have also been pushed out with a pin that also shoves on the anvil. To me, that's way too much messing with the anvil - and the priming compound beneath it. I wouldn't use primers like that, especially bought from an individual rather than a recognized loading company. |
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Quoted: Thanks for the quick replies. I looked at them again...my WSR's (from the Blue box, and were purchased from the shop) measure about 0.1125". The anvil is sticking up a little and I WAS measuring from the primer base to the top of the anvil...not the top of the cup. Thanks for the link! The "pull down" primers I have were purchased at an auction, from a known rifle guy - so I had no inclination to question him about these primers. They are a dark grey, has a slight red ring on the bottom of the cup - where the red ring is on crimped military rounds are. Other than that, they look normal. Anvil has the three legs, red color on the inside - WSR's have green. I have not had a slam fire yet...only failure to fire. Have re-chambered those rounds and they fired fine. This indicated that primers were not fully seated. (not below flush) First firing pin strike fully seated them (round did not fire), second strike fired them as primers were then fully seated. Purchased these at a 'good' price. Will only use these for practice/plunking....and I guess also to practice my failure to fire drills! Once in the press, I do, at minimum, try to push them up just a bit, but not too much. Wonder if these are Russian? Thanks |
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