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12/14/2012 10:30:30 PM EDT
I ordered my first die, it should be here Monday, are there any suggestions on setting the die up to case length? or are they set up at that already?
12/14/2012 10:54:59 PM EDT
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Do yourself a favor and buy a Hornady Lock and Load Headspace gage.

Link to Hornady site


This tool will allow you to properly set up your die in the press.  Without it, people have nothing but trouble trying to resize their cases.  Many people go cheap and buy a case gage.  Those may work for some but many people have trouble using them, too.  The RCBS Precision Mic has too much leverage on tool and its more diffilcult to get consistenet readings.  The Hornady tool is the way to go.
12/15/2012 4:19:07 AM EDT
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I ordered my first die, it should be here Monday, are there any suggestions on setting the die up to case length? or are they set up at that already?


I covered this here http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=451



I use the Dillon case gage to set up my die



 
12/15/2012 4:45:26 AM EDT
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I covered this here http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=451

I use the Dillon case gage to set up my die



AssaultRifler, thank you for the comprehensive write up on the tutorials. I pretty much learned how to reload 223 from your tutorials. Also, your's is the only tutorial, I've found so far on incrementally adjusting the sizing die to head space properly in a case gauge. Most other people, including the die makers suggest you just kiss the die with the shell plate, and crank down 1/4 turn more to cam over. I always thought, that was weird.

GlockMonk
12/15/2012 6:13:48 AM EDT
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Quoted:



Quoted:



I covered this here http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=451



I use the Dillon case gage to set up my die





AssaultRifler, thank you for the comprehensive write up on the tutorials. I pretty much learned how to reload 223 from your tutorials. Also, your's is the only tutorial, I've found so far on incrementally adjusting the sizing die to head space properly in a case gauge. Most other people, including the die makers suggest you just kiss the die with the shell plate, and crank down 1/4 turn more to cam over. I always thought, that was weird.



GlockMonk



Thanks for the kind words.  Hard to believe the Tutorials are 5 years old now.  I still use the exact same equipment and procedure except I do last stages on a 650 instead of the 550B as shown.  





 
12/15/2012 7:26:56 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and buy a Hornady Lock and Load Headspace gage.

Link to Hornady site


This tool will allow you to properly set up your die in the press.  Without it, people have nothing but trouble trying to resize their cases.  Many people go cheap and buy a case gage.  Those may work for some but many people have trouble using them, too.  The RCBS Precision Mic has too much leverage on tool and its more diffilcult to get consistenet readings.  The Hornady tool is the way to go.


Trollslayer does it come with a Caliper "Device" or is it just the bushings?
12/15/2012 7:53:59 AM EDT
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Not much info in your OP. So, I will assume a 5.56 or 7.62 bottleneck case and suitable rifle.  Generally, take a fired case from the rifle you are loading for and measure the fire-formed shoulder-to-headface distance.  Subtract .003 to .004 from that fire formed distance = setup dim. and set the sizing die body down in the press frame until you get the target setup dim. resulting from a sized case.  There will be some process tolerance, so do not despair if you cannot attain setup dim. exactly.    Typically I can hold better than +/- .002" tolerance on the die formed setup dim.

So, to recap:  No there is no preset factory adjustment to the sizing die.  Each reloading situation is different.  

Follow the instructions that come with the die or die set.
12/15/2012 10:49:59 AM EDT
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Quoted:

I ordered my first die, it should be here Monday, are there any suggestions on setting the die up to case length? or are they set up at that already?




Welcome to the Reloading forum.



This being a technical forum, always give all the info you have so you can get better answers to your question.



What you left out,



Rifle or pistol?

Caliber?

Brand of die set?



Read the FAQ's and Tutorials to learn more about reloading.



In Tutorials there is a 4 part "how to reload 223" tutorial that applies to any bottle neck rifle case.



Pick up a copy of ABC's of Reloading, about $20, it will teach you how to reload.



Also read the Read First thread. Lots of links to answer your questions.



All the bold places are located at the top of the page.

12/15/2012 12:43:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Do yourself a favor and buy a Hornady Lock and Load Headspace gage.

Link to Hornady site


This tool will allow you to properly set up your die in the press.  Without it, people have nothing but trouble trying to resize their cases.  Many people go cheap and buy a case gage.  Those may work for some but many people have trouble using them, too.  The RCBS Precision Mic has too much leverage on tool and its more diffilcult to get consistenet readings.  The Hornady tool is the way to go.


Trollslayer does it come with a Caliper "Device" or is it just the bushings?


For use, it attaches to your caliper.  If you don't have a caliper, you really need to buy one.
12/15/2012 1:57:59 PM EDT
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I've been setting up my full length non-carbide dies to cam over since the mid 1980's. I have NO reason to change. The die is made to size your case to fit any chamber that is in SAAMI spec. If you choose to back it off to better fit YOUR chamber that is fine. But it is not needed or required.

It is my opinion that suggesting to a person who is just getting started that they need to do what basically is advanced techniques is just wrong.

Let them read the how to's and set there equipment up to the directions provided and get some experience before getting into the advanced stuff.

Sure they should know about gages and how they can be used to custom size or what ever the case may be. But for now they just need to learn the basic set up and load some ammo.
12/16/2012 6:30:19 PM EDT
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Thanks guys, I was able to buy the .223 bushing and the holder instead of the kit, since I dont use the other ones.
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