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Posted: 10/31/2007 9:20:57 PM EDT
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Hey guys, I posted this in GD and was redirected here. I'll just post verbatim what I posted originally. Hopefully no one will post again in the GD thread. My grandfather was drafted for Korea in 1952 but never got further than Japan before the war ended. He then went on to duty in W. Germany before being discharged. He collected a bunch of random stuff while he was there, but I only have a few things (including his moth-eaten Ike jacket--really angers me that no one tried to keep it clean). One thing is a grenade. A pineapple grenade that is. It is empty (no charge, no fuse, etc.). But it is not demilled. I had no idea the thing was still around, but I just found it cleaning. We used to use it as a paper weight (that's how he used it when I was little). So, I think it's an unregistered Class III weapon--am I right? If so, is there anything I can do to make it legal or just have it demilled? I'd love to leave it like it's been since about 1954 |
| hello. actually what you have is worth money! especially if it is yellow in color. that would make it a ww2 gernade. i just sold one that wasnt demilled either. mine did have the original spoon and spring with fuse assembly ( fuse already used). i got 160.00 for it on gunbroker. people will pay good money for the ones with no holes in them. i also have a korean un-demilled grenade that i am going to sell. they are worth around 60 to 100. remeber that if you do buy a fuse assembly, you cant just put the cheap ones that they sell at gunshows on it. the world war 2 and early korean spoons had a different bend to them. kirk |
Well, form what I understand about the hoax bomb law is that you cannot sell it retail. This of course hasn't stopped the sale of demilled dummies all over the state, but oh well. I needed and got clarification of the NFA regarding the grenade, but as I understand the hoax bomb law, I can still sell the grenade (if not Class III). Oh well, I don't plan to sell it anyway. And it is black with paint (or whatever the coating is) chipping off at the bottom. ETA: Nevermind what I said about the hoax bomb law. Apparently possession is a second degree felony. But is a demilled, antique grenade a hoax bomb under the statute? |
| I don't know a lot about Florida Law, but you may want to see if the Law has an exception for Antiques and Relics. I can't imagine that they would make possession of an inoperative Historical Relic a Felony. Usually the Felony comes in when it is used in an inappropriate manner. |
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I have a pretty extensive grenade collection. If there is no explosive material, there is no prohibition for you to own it at the federal level. There is no requirement to drill holes in it, or fill it with an inert substance. Please don't, you'll destroy it's value, both historic and monetary. Many laws about hoax devices have an 'intent' component, and except for California, most states are OK with inert ordnance. I can't speak with authority on that, though. If the fuze unscrews easily, and there is no filler, and the initiator is fired/removed, you are generally OK in most states. As with many items, one must use discretion in where they go and what they do with an inert grenade in your posession. Check ebay to see what the market looks like for inert grenades, there is an enthusiastic collectors market. If my grandfather left me an inert grenade, I would pass it on to my son when I died. |
Possession of anything that looks like a bomb is a felony. Demilled, antique, plastic painted black, 3 road flares with a timer on them, everything is a hoax bomb. Enforcement varies by location. If you go to the Orlando gunshow people will have them. If you go to Ft Lauderdale, you will be arrested. I was at Ft Laud when a dealer was arrested, know another dealer that was arrested in the past (many years ago). One of the ladies that used to make desk sets was warned off. (You know those "take a number" things with the gold grenade? Hoax Bombs.) It's a dumbass law, no doubt, and open to interpretation by the arresting officer, but it's always best not to HAVE an arresting officer. :) |
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Wow. I just read that law... what a crap law. I used to like florida, too. At least california's law forgot to eliminate inert plastic hand grenades. It's a misdemeanor to injure a firefighter with a live hand grenade, but a felony to possess an inert one. No exemptions in there for museums, either. Crap law in question I also learned that it's against the law to shoot a machine gun in a theater in florida. I sure feel safer with quality legislation like that. |
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