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2/17/2009 12:40:31 AM EDT
A friend of mine has an ancient single-shot 22 that his grandpa gave to him. I was messing around with it the other day and I noticed something weird. See, it's a bolt action, but working the bolt does not cock it. To cock the rifle, you must grab a little knob on the end of the bolt and yank it backwards. So the process goes like this:

1. Open bolt
2. Place round in chamber
3. Close bolt
4. Pull back knob
5. Fire

So my question is: WTF? Is his bolt broken, or was this actually a common system on older 22s?
2/17/2009 1:22:40 AM EDT
[#1]
Pretty common. I remember using this system back in Boy Scouts, about 45 years ago. And the rifles were old then.
2/17/2009 1:42:40 AM EDT
[#2]
The family Winchester Model 67 (1934 vintage) is like that.
Normal.
2/17/2009 1:46:45 AM EDT
[#3]
Cricket youth rifles still function this way.
2/17/2009 1:50:09 AM EDT
[#4]
Well that's interesting. I suppose it makes sense for a single-shot 22... for a cheap rifle, it's easier to design and build a system that you cock by hand than one that cocks itself when you work the bolt. Thanks for the speedy responses guys.
2/17/2009 3:51:45 AM EDT
[#5]
I have a Ranger model 103-8 like that.  As far as I can tell it's a Marlin that was sold by Sears in the 1930s.
Manually cocked, no safety.  Accurate as hell with open sights.

It's the first gun I ever fired.  My dad used to have to cock it for me because my little kindergarten hands couldn't grip it tight enough.
2/17/2009 4:40:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

Manually cocked, no safety.  Accurate as hell with open sights.

It's the first gun I ever fired.  My dad used to have to cock it for me because my little kindergarten hands couldn't grip it tight enough.





+1 for all of that but i belive mine is a steven's, it got a make over a few years ago with a stock refinish and gunkote teflon on the barrel, as it is still in  regular use as my garage gun for ground squirls and woodpeckers,  unbelievable how accuarte it is
and the rule with my dad was, as soon as i was big enough to cock it on my own i was big enough to take it into the woods alone.

(i am sure the last part wont go down well with some, but my first memories are of guns and bows, i was better equipped at age 8 or 9 to handle fireams then most of my uncles or cousins are now at 30 years old plus, and on top of that when i started hunting there was no age you had to stay with an adult until, and i was born at the righ time of year where i could leagley hunt big game at 11 so that was my first year alone in a tree)
2/17/2009 5:33:32 PM EDT
[#7]
I restored a Model 67 for my 7 yr. old son.  I like the fact that it requires an extra step to make ready to fire.
2/17/2009 5:38:20 PM EDT
[#8]
If it's anything like mine, you have to be careful that you don't open the bolt when its cocked and loaded.  BANG!
Just remember to un-cock it if you need to open the bolt for whatever reason.
2/20/2009 2:13:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Pretty common. I remember using this system back in Boy Scouts, about 45 years ago. And the rifles were old then.

Yup, I remember using a rifle like that in Boy Scouts. They would dole out the rounds one at a time, and you had to give the Scoutmaster your empty case to get another round. Aahhh what fun.

2/20/2009 8:19:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Yes , I have an old Bayard that you have to manually cock.  My grand father bought it for my dad for $3.50.
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