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2/15/2013 7:40:47 PM EDT
Hey guys, I've recently acquired a Steyr M95 carbine. I have been researching the rifle online, and I have read many posts indicating that an ammo clip is required to properly load the magazine and fire the rifle. Is this true? Moreover, where can one find some "cheaper" ammo online. My LGS doesn't carry ammo for it. Thanks for the help.
2/15/2013 8:29:04 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes, enblock required.
Some here.
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=64&idcategory=21
You can also try Fleabay for enblocks.

Check for ammo here.
http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=8x56R+Steyr

Ammo's not cheap.  Reloading is your friend.

Good luck.
2/16/2013 7:46:09 AM EDT
[#2]
You *can* load one round at a time, but a clip makes life much, much better.  

Get a clip or two like was mentioned above.


2/16/2013 10:03:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Oh I see. Thanks for the info and help guys. The only surplus gun I dealt with so far were Mosins. This Steyr was a complete different ball game, but I love the history and the mechanic of it. Now, time for me to locate some clips and ammo, so I can test out the recoil I've been reading so much about. Again, thanks for the help.
2/16/2013 12:52:53 PM EDT
[#4]
It's best to use the clip. Single loading rounds is hard on the extractor and spares are difficult to find.
2/16/2013 2:19:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Here is some ammo:

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/257
http://www.buffaloarms.com/8X56R_Hungarian_Ammunition_it-158137.aspx?CAT=4452

As said by others, reloading iis really beneficial for this caliber.  You need .329" or .330" bullets which you can get from either Graf's or Buffalo Arms, .323" bullets as used for 8x57 Mauser will work but generally deliver poor accuracy.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/6303
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/12618
http://www.buffaloarms.com/.329_Jacketed_Bullets_it-158318.aspx?CAT=4178
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=158319&CAT=4178
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=158320&CAT=4178
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Hornady_330_205_Grn_Spire_Point_Bullets_it-159658.aspx?CAT=4178

There isn't a lot of reloading data available for 8x56R Hungarian so I ended up working up my own loads for it using IMR 3031 and IMR 4895.  For the IMR 3031 I started with the load listed in "Cartridges of the World" backed off a couple grains and then dialied in until it shot point of aim with the iron sights on my rifles (I've got two of them and the Nazi and Austrian milsurp shoots way high in both of them).  For IMR 4895 I started with a starting level load for 8x57 Mauser backed off by a few grains and worked up the same way.  I don't recommend the latter method -- it is somewhat dangerous.  However, I was out of IMR 3031 at the time and nobody seemed to be getting any in (it was during one of the runs on reloading supplies).

Oh, I also reload the milsurp brass even though it is Berdan primed.  Grafs and a few others have the Tulammo large rifle Berdan primers now.  I use the RCBS Berdan De-Priming tool which works O.K.  I bought an extra depriming pin/collet for my Lee die set for 8x56R that I snapped the Boxer deprime pin off of and I use that when resizing the milsurp Berdan brass.  If you don't have or want to reload the milsurp brass you can buy new brass:

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/793?
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Hungarian_Reloading_Brass_it-159965.aspx?CAT=3829

Anyway, once you get set up for it and have the appropriate data it is a nice cartridge to reload, and the cost savings are phenomenal.  It is cheaper in some cases to load ammo using all new components as compared to buying boxed loaded ammo.
2/16/2013 10:48:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Their stuff is pretty good.
https://www.buymilsurp.com/-c-.html

Gun shows have usually been pretty successful for me. Chargers are usually 2-3 bucks a piece. Chargers plus ammo usually about 10 a pack or so. But getting harder and harder to find lately.
2/17/2013 8:57:17 AM EDT
[#7]
A friend and I just got a few of these Steyr M95s. We cleaned them up and ordered some clips from liberty tree and numrich. Half of them had the eagle and swastika stamp. We finally shot them yesterday, along with a mosin m44. The ammo was Prvi for the steyr and Bulgarian for the mosin. Recoil was similar, but the m44 had a much better trigger and was shooting smaller groups. I like the steyr and for $99 ain't a bad deal.

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