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9/15/2015 12:30:12 PM EDT
Mod, please let me know if this is not allowed.

Could someone run the numbers for loading 22tcm with Hornady bulk 55gr SP at 1.390 OAL with Small Pistol primers and 8" barrel.

I'm wanting to do some load development, but want to make sure it's safe before I get started.

Eventually I'd like to get my own copy of Quickload, but there's a couple things ahead of it on the list right now.
9/15/2015 12:31:57 PM EDT
[#1]
No worries.
9/15/2015 1:05:28 PM EDT
[#2]
How many grains of water does the case hold?

Need to know for input into QL.
9/15/2015 1:08:06 PM EDT
[#3]
And the ambient temperature is good to have too.

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How many grains of water does the case hold?

Need to know for input into QL.
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9/15/2015 1:08:06 PM EDT
[#4]
doubletap
9/15/2015 1:32:45 PM EDT
[#5]
From the data I could find, 14.9 gr h2o capacity. I can verify that with an average of 10 tonight.
9/15/2015 1:59:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Powder?
9/15/2015 3:39:55 PM EDT
[#7]

Cartridge          : .22 TCM
Bullet             : .224, 55, Hornady SP 2265
Useable Case Capaci: 13.314 grain H2O = 0.864 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.390 inch = 35.31 mm
Barrel Length      : 8.0 inch = 203.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H110

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
%       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   67     8.80   1550     294   21708   7766     77.4    0.829
-18.0   69     9.02   1590     309   22950   8067     78.8    0.808
-16.0   70     9.24   1630     324   24263   8369     80.1    0.787
-14.0   72     9.46   1669     340   25652   8671     81.4    0.767
-12.0   74     9.68   1710     357   27118   8973     82.7    0.747
-10.0   75     9.90   1750     374   28667   9273     83.9    0.728
-08.0   77    10.12   1790     391   30303   9572     85.1    0.709
-06.0   79    10.34   1831     409   32031   9869     86.3    0.691
-04.0   80    10.56   1872     428   33855  10162     87.4    0.673  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   82    10.78   1913     447   35782  10452     88.5    0.656  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   84    11.00   1954     466   37817  10737     89.5    0.638  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0   85    11.22   1995     486   39967  11017     90.5    0.621  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   87    11.44   2036     506   42240  11291     91.5    0.604  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   89    11.66   2078     527   44642  11560     92.4    0.588  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0   90    11.88   2119     549   47183  11820     93.3    0.572  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0   92    12.10   2161     570   49872  12074     94.1    0.557  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
9/15/2015 3:42:25 PM EDT
[#8]

Cartridge          : .22 TCM
Bullet             : .224, 55, Hornady SP 2265
Useable Case Capaci: 13.314 grain H2O = 0.864 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.390 inch = 35.31 mm
Barrel Length      : 8.0 inch = 203.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon Lil'Gun

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
%       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   63     8.00   1487     270   17948   7484     80.4    0.882
-18.0   64     8.20   1524     284   18947   7781     81.8    0.860
-16.0   66     8.40   1561     297   20004   8077     83.1    0.840
-14.0   67     8.60   1598     312   21126   8373     84.5    0.820
-12.0   69     8.80   1636     327   22314   8667     85.8    0.800
-10.0   71     9.00   1673     342   23570   8959     87.0    0.780
-08.0   72     9.20   1712     358   24900   9248     88.2    0.761
-06.0   74     9.40   1750     374   26313   9534     89.4    0.743
-04.0   75     9.60   1788     391   27810   9814     90.5    0.725
-02.0   77     9.80   1827     408   29382  10090     91.6    0.707
+00.0   78    10.00   1866     425   31026  10359     92.6    0.690
+02.0   80    10.20   1904     443   32747  10621     93.5    0.673  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0   82    10.40   1943     461   34555  10875     94.4    0.656  ! Near Maximum !
+06.0   83    10.60   1982     480   36463  11121     95.3    0.640  ! Near Maximum !
+08.0   85    10.80   2021     499   38476  11358     96.0    0.624  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0   86    11.00   2060     518   40599  11585     96.7    0.608  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

USE CAUTION AND AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!!
9/15/2015 4:36:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote History
Quoted:
Cartridge          : .22 TCMBullet             : .224, 55, Hornady SP 2265Useable Case Capaci: 13.314 grain H2O = 0.864 cm³Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.390 inch = 35.31 mmBarrel Length      : 8.0 inch = 203.2 mmPowder             : Hodgdon Lil'GunPredicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms-20.0   63     8.00   1487     270   17948   7484     80.4    0.882-18.0   64     8.20   1524     284   18947   7781     81.8    0.860-16.0   66     8.40   1561     297   20004   8077     83.1    0.840-14.0   67     8.60   1598     312   21126   8373     84.5    0.820-12.0   69     8.80   1636     327   22314   8667     85.8    0.800-10.0   71     9.00   1673     342   23570   8959     87.0    0.780-08.0   72     9.20   1712     358   24900   9248     88.2    0.761-06.0   74     9.40   1750     374   26313   9534     89.4    0.743-04.0   75     9.60   1788     391   27810   9814     90.5    0.725-02.0   77     9.80   1827     408   29382  10090     91.6    0.707+00.0   78    10.00   1866     425   31026  10359     92.6    0.690+02.0   80    10.20   1904     443   32747  10621     93.5    0.673  ! Near Maximum !+04.0   82    10.40   1943     461   34555  10875     94.4    0.656  ! Near Maximum !+06.0   83    10.60   1982     480   36463  11121     95.3    0.640  ! Near Maximum !+08.0   85    10.80   2021     499   38476  11358     96.0    0.624  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!+10.0   86    11.00   2060     518   40599  11585     96.7    0.608  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

USE CAUTION AND AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!!
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Thank you very much, looks like I'm going to try a Lil' Gun ladder from 9.0-10.0gr.
Not looking to chase velocity, just want a cheap plinking load.
Once I get some things figured out i'd like to work up a varmint load in the 30-45 gr range out of a 16"-20" barrel.
9/15/2015 4:41:35 PM EDT
[#10]
NP
Remember these are theoretical predictions.
Use caution.

9/15/2015 5:44:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Cartridge          : .22 TCM

Bullet             : .224, 55, Hornady SP 2265
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.390 inch or 35.31 mm
Barrel Length      : 8.0 inch or 203.2 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 34000 psi, or 234 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

54 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 65%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                     %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hodgdon Lil'Gun                     81.1     10.3     0.67    1932    94.2    34000   10800   0.659  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R910                       83.6      9.5     0.61    1928    96.3    34000   10224   0.642  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207                        103.7     11.9     0.77    1910    81.5    34000   10662   0.643  ! Near Maximum !
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39            109.5     13.7     0.89    1908    76.3    34000   11085   0.641  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                          102.3     13.0     0.84    1905    76.4    34000   10883   0.659  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296                      79.8     10.5     0.68    1900    83.8    34000   10727   0.666  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120                    105.8     11.9     0.77    1896    83.8    34000   10280   0.643  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N125                     99.2     11.3     0.73    1895    84.4    34000   10244   0.647  ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300               103.1     13.0     0.84    1883    71.8    34000   10460   0.642  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110                     89.8      9.3     0.61    1879    94.1    34000    9734   0.661  ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123                          68.6      8.4     0.55    1878   100.0    34000    9188   0.690  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110                        80.4     10.6     0.69    1875    87.5    34000   10187   0.669  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                110.0     12.7     0.83    1874    73.5    33117   10388   0.651  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S053                          95.7     10.5     0.68    1869    86.5    34000    9812   0.655  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227                       95.0     10.7     0.69    1865    81.7    34000    9660   0.644  ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200                85.8     10.5     0.68    1861    83.6    34000    9855   0.662  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7                  101.4     12.0     0.78    1861    76.5    34000    9960   0.655  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer                    72.5      9.1     0.59    1860    94.5    34000    9471   0.663  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512                 77.4      9.1     0.59    1856    94.3    34000    9428   0.664  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400                        72.7      8.5     0.55    1855    93.4    34000    9394   0.661  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                           104.9     11.5     0.75    1854    75.9    34000    9574   0.642  ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W                   105.8     12.7     0.82    1844    73.9    34000    9591   0.649  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227                            93.1     10.5     0.68    1844    80.7    34000    9323   0.646  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100                       75.5      9.6     0.62    1843    90.7    34000    9293   0.663  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator               104.5     13.7     0.89    1841    67.2    34000    9700   0.645  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10                  105.0     13.8     0.89    1839    65.2    34000    9717   0.645  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223)       104.9     13.8     0.89    1838    65.2    34000    9702   0.645  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D060                          86.2      9.9     0.64    1834    78.3    34000    9434   0.651  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744                       84.2      9.9     0.64    1834    78.3    34000    9434   0.651  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S040                          78.3      8.6     0.55    1834    93.4    34000    8921   0.653  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D063                          82.4     10.5     0.68    1834    77.9    34000    9216   0.647  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                        104.2     13.2     0.86    1831    65.9    34000    9539   0.643  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680                       91.6     11.7     0.76    1829    71.9    34000    9319   0.649  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT                    75.7      7.6     0.49    1826    98.5    34000    8566   0.660  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130                    110.0     12.6     0.82    1821    73.2    32571    9485   0.658  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                       104.8     14.0     0.91    1820    63.9    34000    9464   0.645  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105                     74.5      7.2     0.46    1819   100.0    34000    7762   0.663  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                      107.9     14.3     0.93    1817    62.5    34000    9363   0.648  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                       109.0     14.3     0.93    1817    62.5    34000    9363   0.648  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                 110.0     13.8     0.89    1816    66.6    33930    9314   0.646  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                       110.0     13.1     0.85    1814    65.4    33197    9398   0.650  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                      100.6     12.5     0.81    1814    66.2    34000    9129   0.648  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S265                        89.9     10.1     0.66    1813    86.3    34000    9088   0.677  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                        104.2     13.2     0.86    1809    64.1    34000    9111   0.648  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2205                         85.8     10.0     0.65    1806    87.4    34000    8779   0.655  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation        99.3     11.8     0.77    1806    69.0    34000    8850   0.647  ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2                            101.4     13.3     0.86    1804    64.5    34000    9039   0.650  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       99.8     11.5     0.75    1803    69.9    34000    8829   0.649  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                  110.0     13.3     0.86    1799    64.0    33849    8980   0.652  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38                     71.4      7.1     0.46    1794    99.9    34000    7711   0.660  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321                       110.0     14.5     0.94    1793    60.0    33087    9239   0.657  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                    110.0     13.6     0.88    1790    60.3    33163    9062   0.655  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                        109.9     14.5     0.94    1789    57.8    34000    8947   0.650  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                     110.0     14.5     0.94    1788    57.9    33867    9025   0.650  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                      110.0     14.5     0.94    1786    61.2    31864    9321   0.667  
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