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Posted: 1/27/2016 8:41:25 PM EDT
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My RRA lower receiver appear to have a "SPACE" the serial number, CM 8xxxxx, but I did not include that space in my trust document, CM8xxxxx. I am make the mistake by not including the SPACE?
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My RRA lower receiver appear to have a "SPACE" the serial number, CM 8xxxxx, but I did include that space in my trust document, CM8xxxxx. I am make the mistake by not including the SPACE? Did you mean to say you didn't include it? I don't believe they have a space. Some have a hyphen, but if not, I'd put it all together. |
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It appears to have a SPACE between the "M" and the "8", no hyphen. I put the "M" & the "8" together in my trust document like CM8xxxxx.
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Did you mean to say you didn't include it? I don't believe they have a space. Some have a hyphen, but if not, I'd put it all together. Quoted:
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My RRA lower receiver appear to have a "SPACE" the serial number, CM 8xxxxx, but I did not include that space in my trust document, CM8xxxxx. I am make the mistake by not including the SPACE? Did you mean to say you didn't include it? I don't believe they have a space. Some have a hyphen, but if not, I'd put it all together. |
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What you have is the alpha part engraved with the rollmark, and then the numeric part engraved afterwards. I have some like that from various companies, and never include a space...not in eForms or in my trust.
ETA: sorry...missed the "not" in your question, which is why my reply made no sense 
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Thank you!
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What you have is the alpha part engraved with the rollmark, and then the numeric part engraved afterwards. I have some like that from various companies, and never include a space...not in eForms or in my trust. ETA: sorry...missed the "not" in your question, which is why my reply made no sense |
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If your lower has S/N00123. Is it okay to just submit 00123 as the serial number for the lower? I would say S/N is the title/label and 00123 is the actual SN. I do have one where the prefix is SBR (so SN is SBR-####), but I've never seen one with S/N as a prefix. |
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The lower is a San Tan Tactical lower. I submitted my paperwork as just the 00123 as I thought the S/N just designated the number as the serial number. Just because it's called a serial number doesn't mean only the numbers count. You did your paperwork wrong; nothing will ever come of it, but do it right next time. OP: The space doesn't matter. The serial number of that receiver is CM29451. |
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Just because it's called a serial number doesn't mean only the numbers count. You did your paperwork wrong; nothing will ever come of it, but do it right next time. Quoted:
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The lower is a San Tan Tactical lower. I submitted my paperwork as just the 00123 as I thought the S/N just designated the number as the serial number. Just because it's called a serial number doesn't mean only the numbers count. You did your paperwork wrong; nothing will ever come of it, but do it right next time. I don't believe you're correct on this one. Yes, there are Serial Numbers out there with both alpha and numeric characters. Usually an alpha prefix followed by a number. But, there are also SNs that only contain numerals. I have one registered as an SBR. But, if I saw S/N12345 (or S/N 12345) on a lower, I'd never think the S/N was part of the serial number...anymore than I would think "MOD" was part of the model name if it said MOD-ST15 (like at least one of my Spike's lowers). |
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I don't believe you're correct on this one. Yes, there are Serial Numbers out there with both alpha and numeric characters. Usually an alpha prefix followed by a number. But, there are also SNs that only contain numerals. I have one registered as an SBR. But, if I saw S/N12345 (or S/N 12345) on a lower, I'd never think the S/N was part of the serial number...anymore than I would think "MOD" was part of the model name if it said MOD-ST15 (like at least one of my Spike's lowers). Quoted:
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The lower is a San Tan Tactical lower. I submitted my paperwork as just the 00123 as I thought the S/N just designated the number as the serial number. Just because it's called a serial number doesn't mean only the numbers count. You did your paperwork wrong; nothing will ever come of it, but do it right next time. I don't believe you're correct on this one. Yes, there are Serial Numbers out there with both alpha and numeric characters. Usually an alpha prefix followed by a number. But, there are also SNs that only contain numerals. I have one registered as an SBR. But, if I saw S/N12345 (or S/N 12345) on a lower, I'd never think the S/N was part of the serial number...anymore than I would think "MOD" was part of the model name if it said MOD-ST15 (like at least one of my Spike's lowers). I thought serial numbers were required to have letters in them, and that many people had been denied in the past for only putting the numbers. Similar subject here. |
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I thought serial numbers were required to have letters in them, and that many people had been denied in the past for only putting the numbers. Similar subject here. Nope. The requirement is that they be comprised of Arabic numerals and Roman letters (your basic 0-9 and A-Z) and must include at least one numeral. It can be all numerals, just can't be all letters like a name. |
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Nope. The requirement is that they be comprised of Arabic numerals and Roman letters (your basic 0-9 and A-Z) and must include at least one numeral. It can be all numerals, just can't be all letters like a name. Quoted:
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I thought serial numbers were required to have letters in them, and that many people had been denied in the past for only putting the numbers. Similar subject here. Nope. The requirement is that they be comprised of Arabic numerals and Roman letters (your basic 0-9 and A-Z) and must include at least one numeral. It can be all numerals, just can't be all letters like a name. Ahh yeah. I knew that. 
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Section 7.4 The identification of firearms.
7.4.1 Serial numbers. Each manufacturer of a firearm must legibly identify it by engraving, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing on the firearm’s frame or receiver an individual serial number not duplicating any serial number placed by the manufacturer on any other firearm.120 The requirement that the marking be “conspicuously” placed on the firearm means that the marking must be wholly unobstructed from plain view. For firearms manufactured on or after January 30, 2002, the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch. 7.4.1.1 What is an acceptable serial number? Alpha characters (letters), for example a name, are not acceptable as a serial number. A proper serial number may contain such characters or letters, but it must have at least one numeric character (number). ATF takes the view that marking “legibly” means using exclusively Roman letters (A, B, C, and so forth) and Arabic numerals (1, 2, 3, and so forth).121 Deviations from this requirement have been found to seriously impair ATF’s ability to trace firearms involved in crime. ATF Ruling 2002-6 also explained part of it. |
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I don't believe you're correct on this one. Yes, there are Serial Numbers out there with both alpha and numeric characters. Usually an alpha prefix followed by a number. But, there are also SNs that only contain numerals. I have one registered as an SBR. That's not what I was saying. |
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That's not what I was saying. Quoted:
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I don't believe you're correct on this one. Yes, there are Serial Numbers out there with both alpha and numeric characters. Usually an alpha prefix followed by a number. But, there are also SNs that only contain numerals. I have one registered as an SBR. That's not what I was saying. Then explain. What did he do wrong on his paperwork? Maybe I missed it... |
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Well by that quote. from my understanding is that the "/" in the S/N can't be part of the serial number. Dunno actually. In that case, I don't believe it is. I know hyphens are allowed, but not sure about slashes. I know somebody that used PB&J as part of something on a Form 1, but I think it was the Model? 
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