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Posted: 9/9/2012 9:41:34 AM EDT
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We at Silencerco/SWR wanted to clarify and reply in a statement to the claims written in the recent edition of Recoil Magazine.
Please read and forward on to your friends. Thank you. http://swrsuppressors.com/blog/recoil-magazine-correction/ |
| Good for you guys @ Silencerco/SWR. I just may pick up one of your cans. It is this kind of mindset that has landed us where we are today with regard to firearms laws. The sad thing is it seems to me this is a very commonly held opinion amongst LE personnel, especially in larger cities. The seem to have the idea that only a "scumbag" would want or need such a weapon, and that there is no legitimate reason for civilian ownership of these. Too bad. Thanks for taking this stand. I hope more will write to the magazine expressing their disgust with this kind of attitude. |
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I bought the MP7A1 issue of RECOIL, because I really want a MP7A1. The production value of the magazine is good. Actual content quality it low.
Reading the MP7 article I was immediately ticked off by the Jerry Tsai's comments. I am glad to see a significant portion of the shooting world shares my ire. |
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Looks like a correction has been made
http://www.recoilweb.com/recoil-statement-16159.html |
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This guy should run for office!!! What a politician! My take of his response is he changed his mind for business purposes only. |
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This guy should run for office!!! What a politician! My take of his response is he changed his mind for business purposes only. +1 |
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Not good enough. |
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Magpul agrees with you guys (a lot of other manufacturers as well):
Recently, the editor of RECOIL magazine wrote comments regarding who should and should not have access to certain firearms, as well as comments meant to clarify his initial statements. We at Magpul were severely disappointed in the apparent position of the author and by the comments themselves. We have been asked to provide a response to these comments and a statement regarding our intent to continue or discontinue advertising in RECOIL.
At Magpul we consider ourselves proponents of a culture of personal responsibility, where individual liberties are the true roots of our passion. Firearms are tools that can be an expression of those liberties, and more importantly, the guardians of them. When we were presented with the opportunity to support a new publication, called “RECOIL”, that had a different look and feel, we were on board. We had hopes that the broad appeal and fresh look of a publication of this type could be a big help in getting more people involved and interested in firearms and firearm freedoms issues. We welcome all who enjoy or appreciate firearms for any lawful purpose, as greater numbers strengthen our cause. We also want to partner with those who share our appreciation of the true struggle we are in regarding our Second Amendment freedoms. Due to concerns about content and true motivation, we allowed our support for RECOIL to expire, with the current issue being our last, until we could determine if we were truly speaking the same language. The recent comments and subsequent clarification made by the editor of RECOIL are completely counter to our position here at Magpul. These statements proved that there is an apparent gap between our values and those of RECOIL. As such, we have chosen not to continue or renew any advertising support for RECOIL magazine unless and until we are convinced at some future point that this publication truly shares our values and has the best interests of Magpul and our customers in mind. We sincerely hope that the outpouring of Second Amendment support as a result of these comments can continue with as much strength towards educating existing and potential new shooters about the importance of firearms rights and in contacting elected officials to preserve those rights. We look forward to future efforts to reach a broader audience through individual effort, and perhaps through an appropriately focused publication, to continue growth in the number of Americans who enjoy celebrating our Second Amendment heritage. |
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First of all, I understand and agree with the opinions expressed in this thread.
But what I routinely try to understand is how we accept this from the gun companies themselves. Gun companies dont sell certain weapons to civilians. Is it because they think we shouldnt have them? If so, then how can we support any gun company that has a weapon they dont offer to the general public? Or is it the lawmakers that say we can have certain weapons? |
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Their newest "retraction" smacks of "I'm saying what I think you want me to say." He doesn't believe the new statement, and his lack of commitment is apparent. I think the best wording was Magpul's statement. They believe in the responsibility of the individual and the right of the individual. Recoil's was more along the lines of "wow we didn't know so many paying customers would pull advertising over this - just kidding we didn't really mean it (actually we do but for business reasons will say we dont)."
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Not sure where the magazine goes from here, but it looks like the offending editor has finally resigned. 
"It is with deep sorrow that I announce I am stepping down as editor of Recoil, effective immediately. It is very difficult for me to walk away from something I helped create, something that I loved doing, and something I firmly believed would appeal to a fresh new generation of gun enthusiasts, but I accept that the comments in my story in the current issue have made my position as editor of Recoil untenable. With that said, Recoil is bigger than any one person, and if my departure will allow Recoil to continue to grow and engage gun enthusiasts, then stepping down as editor is clearly the right thing for me to do. I accept I made mistakes, and I apologize unreservedly for calling Recoil’s support for Second Amendment rights into question. While I understand the passions aroused over this incident, the deeply hurtful words from some of my fellow gun enthusiasts have been painful to endure. I hope now we can all move on. Finally, I would like to thank all those who have supported me over the past few days. These are the people who know me to be at heart a passionate gun enthusiast whose dream was to make something bold and new in firearms media. Jerry Tsai" Maybe with the right person at the helm they can make a comeback. I hope everyone involved with the magazine has learned a lesson. Thanks to TNVC and other site sponsors for helping to bring all this about. I hope they get back on the right track. http://www.itstactical.com/centcom/its-information/the-final-word-recoil-magazines-position-statement-and-life-lessons/ Link to history thread |
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Not sure where the magazine goes from here, but it looks like the offending editor has finally resigned.
"It is with deep sorrow that I announce I am stepping down as editor of Recoil, effective immediately. It is very difficult for me to walk away from something I helped create, something that I loved doing, and something I firmly believed would appeal to a fresh new generation of gun enthusiasts, but I accept that the comments in my story in the current issue have made my position as editor of Recoil untenable. With that said, Recoil is bigger than any one person, and if my departure will allow Recoil to continue to grow and engage gun enthusiasts, then stepping down as editor is clearly the right thing for me to do. I accept I made mistakes, and I apologize unreservedly for calling Recoil’s support for Second Amendment rights into question. While I understand the passions aroused over this incident, the deeply hurtful words from some of my fellow gun enthusiasts have been painful to endure. I hope now we can all move on. Finally, I would like to thank all those who have supported me over the past few days. These are the people who know me to be at heart a passionate gun enthusiast whose dream was to make something bold and new in firearms media. Jerry Tsai" Maybe with the right person at the helm they can make a comeback. I hope everyone involved with the magazine has learned a lesson. Thanks to TNVC and other site sponsors for helping to bring all this about. I hope they get back on the right track. http://www.itstactical.com/centcom/its-information/the-final-word-recoil-magazines-position-statement-and-life-lessons/ Link to history thread well we all saw this coming |
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First of all, I understand and agree with the opinions expressed in this thread. But what I routinely try to understand is how we accept this from the gun companies themselves. Gun companies dont sell certain weapons to civilians. Is it because they think we shouldnt have them? If so, then how can we support any gun company that has a weapon they dont offer to the general public? Or is it the lawmakers that say we can have certain weapons? The MP7 is a select-fire SMG. To be legal for sale to civilians in its basic configuration, it would need to be made 1) semi-auto only, and 2) given a barrel of at least 16" in length. This would seriously compromise its utility, as it was intended to be a PDW-type submachine gun (per NATO definitions of the late 80s), and its fundamental design elements reflect that purpose. It needs to be compact and lightweight, and it needs to be capable of full auto fire because the 4.6mm round is limited, to say the least. It is said to be effective only at very short range, in which case, what purpose would an MP7 with a carbine-length barrel serve that couldn't be better accomplished with an entirely different platform? The 4.6mm cartridge just doesn't make much sense in a carbine application. It was intended to be a concealable, close-up, armor-penetration-capable SMG, and without compact size and volume of fire, it would address a need that simply doesn't exist. What's more, there are issues with the 4.6mm cartridge being made available for sale in the US. HK did their own assessment, and I suspect they arrived at similar conclusions, so they don't sell it in a civilian-legal form. In that sense, it is the lawmakers who are preventing you from having one, to answer the specific question you asked. But honestly, you're not missing much. |
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