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5/6/2009 3:37:34 PM EDT
I'm about 99% sure I know the answer to this, but...



A recent acquaintance of mine mentioned that you shouldn't reload for Glocks, they won't feed properly and might go KB in the gun...



Is there any truth at all to this (assuming you are sizing brass correctly and reloading per the manuals)?
5/6/2009 4:01:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I wouldn't reload using cast lead bullets and the factory barrel.  That being said I have not encountered any problems otherwise.


edit:

On second thought the manual says if you shoot reloads you void the warranty (I think) but then again so does RRA and thier ARs and a bunch of other companies.  Maybe where this rumor is getting started
5/6/2009 4:02:35 PM EDT
[#2]
never heard that before but I dont reload for a Glock either
5/6/2009 4:35:53 PM EDT
[#3]
I have reloaded for years for my 9mm Glock 19. In fact, I almost always shoot my reloads. One poster was right. You never want to shoot Lead bullets out of the Glock. Roloads or New. I believe this has to do with the ( rifleing) sorry about the spelling. I have found that my Glock did like heavier bullets though. Like 124 gr FMJ/JHP with near max powder charge. You can save a lot of money by reloading. For example, 100 primers is around $4.00 / 100 FMJ 124 gr bullets is $10.00 and I can get about 1000 or so  rounds out of 1 lb of powder which costs $20.00. I have found that I can reload 100 rnds. for about $14.00, once you have your own brass. Even cheaper if you buy in bulk. 100 rnds. of good quality 124 gr. FMJ's is around $20.00 or more. That is, if you can find any of the reloading products anymore. Have fun and be safe.
5/6/2009 6:08:48 PM EDT
[#4]
The caveat against Glock reloading applies to Generation 1 (early) pistols in high pressure rounds like .40 S&W and 9 mm.  
45s etc. were not an issue.

Any late model Glock should not have problems with jacketed or plated reloads -  if you want to shoot lead, buy an aftermarket barrel.

Keep your reloads on the light side, using published data, use proper reloading techniques, and you should not have problems.  I've shot thousands of jacketed and Berry's plated through my G-23, and never had a feeding issue, nor any problem whatsoever.  

Don't let web rumors slow you down.
5/6/2009 6:11:31 PM EDT
[#5]
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I have reloaded for years for my 9mm Glock 19. In fact, I almost always shoot my reloads. One poster was right. You never want to shoot Lead bullets out of the Glock. Roloads or New. I believe this has to do with the ( rifleing) sorry about the spelling. I have found that my Glock did like heavier bullets though. Like 124 gr FMJ/JHP with near max powder charge. You can save a lot of money by reloading. For example, 100 primers is around $4.00 / 100 FMJ 124 gr bullets is $10.00 and I can get about 1000 or so  rounds out of 1 lb of powder which costs $20.00. I have found that I can reload 100 rnds. for about $14.00, once you have your own brass. Even cheaper if you buy in bulk. 100 rnds. of good quality 124 gr. FMJ's is around $20.00 or more. That is, if you can find any of the reloading products anymore. Have fun and be safe.


i will be loading for a g 17, 19, and 21 (9mm and .45). you said your gun liked heavier bullets. is that for function or accuracy?
5/6/2009 6:42:05 PM EDT
[#6]
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I have reloaded for years for my 9mm Glock 19. In fact, I almost always shoot my reloads. One poster was right. You never want to shoot Lead bullets out of the Glock. Roloads or New. I believe this has to do with the ( rifleing) sorry about the spelling. I have found that my Glock did like heavier bullets though. Like 124 gr FMJ/JHP with near max powder charge. You can save a lot of money by reloading. For example, 100 primers is around $4.00 / 100 FMJ 124 gr bullets is $10.00 and I can get about 1000 or so  rounds out of 1 lb of powder which costs $20.00. I have found that I can reload 100 rnds. for about $14.00, once you have your own brass. Even cheaper if you buy in bulk. 100 rnds. of good quality 124 gr. FMJ's is around $20.00 or more. That is, if you can find any of the reloading products anymore. Have fun and be safe.


i will be loading for a g 17, 19, and 21 (9mm and .45). you said your gun liked heavier bullets. is that for function or accuracy?


I found that the heavier bullets both functioned better and were more accurate. The 115 Gr. JHP's are cheaper to buy and functioned well. I just liked the results of the heavier bullets, for me. I'm sure some will feel other than me. One rule I always had was that I would never use reloads for home/self defense. You never know if one will fail to feed or fire d/t a bad primer or something like that.
5/6/2009 6:48:18 PM EDT
[#7]
Toss the Glock and get a Beretta.....
Seriously, I have friends that re-load for their Glocks with no problems at all.

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One rule I always had was that I would never use reloads for home/self defense. You never know if one will fail to feed or fire d/t a bad primer or something like that.


You think your re-loads are less reliable than something made by a machine at a factory?
5/6/2009 6:54:21 PM EDT
[#8]
I can't say that for sure, but I have had few, if any problems with high end factory ammo. I can probibly count on one hand the FTF or fire of my reloads. They are more accurate than factory. It's just my rule and suggestion. Take it or leave it. Up to you.
5/6/2009 6:56:24 PM EDT
[#9]
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You think your re-loads are less reliable than something made by a machine at a factory?




Exactly...your reloads should be above and beyond what any factory can produce.  I reload for all of my Glocks, and especially my 10mm's.  I think my G20 and G29 have had, maybe, 500 rounds of factory through them, and many thousands of handloads through them.
5/6/2009 7:04:44 PM EDT
[#10]
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You think your re-loads are less reliable than something made by a machine at a factory?




Exactly...your reloads should be above and beyond what any factory can produce.  I reload for all of my Glocks, and especially my 10mm's.  I think my G20 and G29 have had, maybe, 500 rounds of factory through them, and many thousands of handloads through them.


Look guys. I reload on a Lee progressive. Have been for years. I load for fun and to same some $.  0 problems with the machine or components and very inexpensive. Do the police or military use handloads when their life depends on it? I'm sure we have MANY professional loaders who sit in their basement and crank out thousands of high quality rounds a night. I stated it was my choice. If you have anything  to offer the OP, I'm sure he will appreciate it. If not, don't be hater, baby.
5/6/2009 7:08:23 PM EDT
[#11]
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You think your re-loads are less reliable than something made by a machine at a factory?




Exactly...your reloads should be above and beyond what any factory can produce.  I reload for all of my Glocks, and especially my 10mm's.  I think my G20 and G29 have had, maybe, 500 rounds of factory through them, and many thousands of handloads through them.


Look guys. I reload on a Lee progressive. Have been for years. I load for fun and to same some $.  0 problems with the machine or components and very inexpensive. Do the police or military use handloads when their life depends on it? I'm sure we have MANY professional loaders who sit in their basement and crank out thousands of high quality rounds a night. I stated it was my choice. If you have anything  to offer the OP, I'm sure he will appreciate it. If not, don't be hater, baby.



Yes, sometimes some of them do for certain situations.  Anyway, to the OP, yes, you will be okay reloading for your Glocks, although I do carry factory in my CCW as a personal choice to prevent further litigation if the situation occurs.  I am not advocating that you do or do not, but I personally do.
5/6/2009 7:18:29 PM EDT
[#12]
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I can't say that for sure, but I have had few, if any problems with high end factory ammo. I can probibly count on one hand the FTF or fire of my reloads. They are more accurate than factory. It's just my rule and suggestion. Take it or leave it. Up to you.


I was not trying to insult you.....  just curious as to why you thought your primers had more of a chance to malfunction than a factory primer. (your example, not mine)

I told the OP he should be fine re-loading for his Glock.

I know there are lots of people that do not rely on re-loads for self defence for a variety of reasons. I agree, it's personal choice.

Honestly, no offense intended.


5/6/2009 7:28:46 PM EDT
[#13]
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I can't say that for sure, but I have had few, if any problems with high end factory ammo. I can probibly count on one hand the FTF or fire of my reloads. They are more accurate than factory. It's just my rule and suggestion. Take it or leave it. Up to you.


I was not trying to insult you.....  just curious as to why you thought your primers had more of a chance to malfunction than a factory primer. (your example, not mine)

I told the OP he should be fine re-loading for his Glock.

I know there are lots of people that do not rely on re-loads for self defence for a variety of reasons. I agree, it's personal choice.

Honestly, no offense intended.


I took no offense. Just making conversation. Glad to hear I am not psyco for using factory for self defense. I was getting worried. I never thought about the legal aspect of using handloads for self defense. Interesting.

5/6/2009 7:57:49 PM EDT
[#14]
I reload 9mm, 40, and 45 for my Glocks.  If fact, all my Glocks shoot reloads exclusively.  Zero problems. Pay attention to what you're doing, read the manual, check your finished product.
5/6/2009 8:15:38 PM EDT
[#15]
i reload for g21 with lead swc. never had a problem with leading or feed issues. ive been using a light target load that works well in my 1911. 3.8grs of bullseye with a 200gr swc
5/6/2009 8:30:44 PM EDT
[#16]



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You think your re-loads are less reliable than something made by a machine at a factory?

Exactly...your reloads should be above and beyond what any factory can produce.  I reload for all of my Glocks, and especially my 10mm's.  I think my G20 and G29 have had, maybe, 500 rounds of factory through them, and many thousands of handloads through them.




Look guys. I reload on a Lee progressive. Have been for years. I load for fun and to same some $.  0 problems with the machine or components and very inexpensive. Do the police or military use handloads when their life depends on it? I'm sure we have MANY professional loaders who sit in their basement and crank out thousands of high quality rounds a night. I stated it was my choice. If you have anything  to offer the OP, I'm sure he will appreciate it. If not, don't be hater, baby.






Yes, sometimes some of them do for certain situations.  Anyway, to the OP, yes, you will be okay reloading for your Glocks, although I do carry factory in my CCW as a personal choice to prevent further litigation if the situation occurs.  I am not advocating that you do or do not, but I personally do.

Well, at this point, I haven't even started reloading .45ACP yet.  I'm still dazzled with reloading .223, and even if I went out and bought the dies, bullets and powder, there aren't any Large Pistol Primers in stock anywhere, so at this point, I carry and practice with factory.



At some point I'll take a shot at reloading .45...





 
5/6/2009 8:56:08 PM EDT
[#17]
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Do the police or military use handloads when their life depends on it?



Are the police or military firearms experts?
5/6/2009 9:11:03 PM EDT
[#18]
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Do the police or military use handloads when their life depends on it?



Are the police or military firearms experts?


Can you explain what this means?  We were talking to a person who wants to get INTO reloading. Does one have to be an expert to start to reload? Just asking.
5/7/2009 4:27:38 AM EDT
[#19]
All my glocks have KKM barrels ...All my Factory glock barrels stretched out my brass .
5/7/2009 6:31:58 AM EDT
[#20]
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All my glocks have KKM barrels ...All my Factory glock barrels stretched out my brass .


+1 for an aftermarket barrel.  I have had no problems with my reloads.  Although I recommend the aftermarket barrel.  I have a Lone Wolf.  It works great and it was fairly low cost.  (100$)  I shoot lead through it with no problem what so ever.  But reload away for your glocks....
5/7/2009 9:46:02 AM EDT
[#21]


Actually US military snipers roll there own.  

5/7/2009 10:43:13 AM EDT
[#22]
My gen 2 G17 has never seen factory ammo.  Nothing but reloads.
5/7/2009 4:45:32 PM EDT
[#23]



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All my glocks have KKM barrels ...All my Factory glock barrels stretched out my brass .


I've been reloading 40 S&W with an after market barrel with no problems.  The barrel has traditional rifling so lead is GTG and the chamber has considerably more support at 6 o'clock to appease my KB concerns.

 
5/7/2009 5:34:49 PM EDT
[#24]
15 years ago I loaded pistol rounds for 38 super,9mm.,45 cal .

 Also loaded 9mm , 45 cal and  40 cal. for our glocks using mostly lead bullets.
My gen 2 40 cal . started double firing at times and I sent it back to glock. They fixed it and sent a note with it saying to stop shooting reloads.

I would like to resume reloading for the 40 using fmj and leaded bullets if I can make work out.

 The 9 and 45 glocks had no problems only the 40 cal with the leaded bullets.
5/7/2009 6:07:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
I'm about 99% sure I know the answer to this, but...

A recent acquaintance of mine mentioned that you shouldn't reload for Glocks, they won't feed properly and might go KB in the gun...

Is there any truth at all to this (assuming you are sizing brass correctly and reloading per the manuals)?


No it's not true.

Reload as you would/should for any other type of weapon.  Usual caveats apply.
5/7/2009 6:22:48 PM EDT
[#26]
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Actually US military snipers roll there own.  



Off topic...

I don't want to hijack the thread but yes, I've seen that. Can't remember if I saw a web video or something on TV but the military sniper schools do indeed handload their own ammo. Wish I could remember what reloading presses they used. I'd like to think they use Dillon machines.

On topic...

Every firearm manufacturer under the sun puts in their owner's manuals some verbiage about only shooting new ammo and not shooting handloads or remanufactured ammo. It's CYA.

Since starting reloading about a decade ago I've probably reloaded at least 10,000 9mm rounds and at least 1,000 45ACP rounds and shot them all through Glock pistols...with factory barrels....with the only issue being a few squib loads which could have easily been avoided. I also bought a used Oly Arms G21 barrel and shot lead through it with zero problems.

I've also shot a lot of remanufactured ammo (Georgia Arms, et. al) through Glocks. Again, no problems.

If the 'unsupported chamber' claims bother you then buy an aftermarket barrel and reload and shoot lead bullets you'll definitely save money over jacketed/plated/polymer coated bullets.

5/7/2009 6:52:34 PM EDT
[#27]
9mm glocks have excellent chamber support.  Always have.  Google "9mm Major"  - I shoot THAT out of my Glock 17.  And handloads?  Look up Team Shooters Paradise at www.gssfonline.com for 2005.  ALL those wins were with handloads.
5/7/2009 9:35:06 PM EDT
[#28]
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I have reloaded for years for my 9mm Glock 19. In fact, I almost always shoot my reloads. One poster was right. You never want to shoot Lead bullets out of the Glock. Roloads or New. I believe this has to do with the ( rifleing) sorry about the spelling. I have found that my Glock did like heavier bullets though. Like 124 gr FMJ/JHP with near max powder charge. You can save a lot of money by reloading. For example, 100 primers is around $4.00 / 100 FMJ 124 gr bullets is $10.00 and I can get about 1000 or so  rounds out of 1 lb of powder which costs $20.00. I have found that I can reload 100 rnds. for about $14.00, once you have your own brass. Even cheaper if you buy in bulk. 100 rnds. of good quality 124 gr. FMJ's is around $20.00 or more. That is, if you can find any of the reloading products anymore. Have fun and be safe.


I have run over 20K of lead rounds through a glock , never had a problem .
5/8/2009 8:15:35 AM EDT
[#29]
Glock 40s seem to be the biggest problem area for reloaders.  I do know that my latest Gen G22 definitely has more chamber support than my original Gen 1 (1992) G22 did.  I probably ran 1,500 reloads thru the Gen 1 I had without problems, but they were all only once-fired brass.  Don't know how consecutive reloads with the case would have held up.
But, yeah... I have a aftermarket barrel anyway for lead bullets.
5/8/2009 8:38:51 AM EDT
[#30]
GLOCKS ARE HARD ON BRASS SUPPORTED OR UNSUPPORTED they are combat pistols that are made with loose tolerance's and will stretch out your brass like a 70 yr old hooker..
So I say get a full length lee sizing die for them and it will help get them back to shape ..I load on a 550b with Dillon dies but I bought lee sizing dies for all my pistols I feel they do a better job !
5/8/2009 10:32:47 PM EDT
[#31]



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GLOCKS ARE HARD ON BRASS SUPPORTED OR UNSUPPORTED they are combat pistols that are made with loose tolerance's and will stretch out your brass like a 70 yr old hooker..

So I say get a full length lee sizing die for them and it will help get them back to shape ..I load on a 550b with Dillon dies but I bought lee sizing dies for all my pistols I feel they do a better job !


I agree.  I got their Deluxe Carbide 4 die pistol set for each of my pistol calibers and their resizing die does a great job of returning the brass back to specs.  Best $28 I've ever spent.



 
5/9/2009 10:33:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Do the 9mm Glocks like longer OAL for reloads?

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5/10/2009 5:36:39 PM EDT
[#33]
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Do the 9mm Glocks like longer OAL for reloads?

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That's a big, fat, negative. As in no.

Glock mags run closer to maximum OAL, so if you exceed cartridge spec (or even get close), you'll run into feeding issue as the cartridge wedges itself between the front and back of the magzine. Same loads have no problems in my AR-24 (a CZ/Witness variant), and my P89, with their metal  mags. Learned that the hard way, using loads working fine in my AR-24 in my G19 at a match
5/10/2009 10:28:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Indeed, for Glocks it seems best to stay on the short side of OAL.  My 115 grn JHP loads are at 1.095 now.  Feed great.
5/10/2009 10:37:24 PM EDT
[#35]
I shoot reloads for my glock never had a problem
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