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Posted: 10/12/2015 9:43:11 PM EDT
| I had a list of a dillon setup but the person buying it gets a discount on rcbs. He Gave me a catalog and said pick what you want. I am going for the 7 stage progressive 88911, bullet feeder 82352 besides that I'm lost lol. There are 5 to 20 different options for each thing and I this is my first setup. Only reloading 223 for now. Need a complete list to give to him hopefully this weekend so he can order it thanks guys. Alot of knowledge here and yall are always helpful. |
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I would recommend Hornady dies, better features on the dies, same price as RCBS. But if RCBS was my only option, get standard full length dies, none of the small base or AR die sets. Not needed and why spend extra money? So none of those dies in your chart. These; http://www.midwayusa.com/product/440502/rcbs-2-die-set-223-remington?cm_vc=ProductFinding Get the Rockchucker master kit and add, dies shellholder, caliper, and a trimmer. RCBS make a good lathe trimmer. |
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Like Dryflash said, get the RC Master kit. You'll not only need shellholders for the press but also for the hand primer.
The Rockchucker is single stage so it will be slow going at first but that's what you want so you can learn what each operation does, how things work, etc. That kit will last a couple lifetimes and later you decide to go progressive there will still be a lot of uses for the single stage. You''ll be glad to have it. |
| As a user of RCBS equipment for 44 years, I totally concur with Dryflash3's advice. If you become a permanent reloading convert you can add to your collection in years to come and include a high end press like a Pro Chucker 7 or even a Dillon. The Supreme will be your go to press even then for new load work ups or new calibers to try....that press will never wear out or go out of style or ever become a door stop. And do drop by if you need help with anything.....lots of experience here....and very willing helpers. |
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As a long time reloader I will add in my consensus.
Get the Rock chucker kit if you're going with your RCBS friend's discount. A very good way to start and learn the process. Even when you've got it down pat and decide to move on to the progressive reloader say for high volume 223 or pistol, you will still find yourself using the single stage press, don't sell it or trade it if/when you go progressive. I have a crap ton of presses; RCBS Reloader Special 3, a nice used Rock Chucker, A redding big boss, a forster Co Ax, a 550B. I'm a bit heavy there but I would keep the Coax, the 550B, and at least one of the two of the Big Boss and the Rock Chucker. They all have their finer points and specialties. |
 Even if this is really a Dillon 550 pic, you can see my Rockchucker on the right, and the lower RH corner of another Dillon. Hornady collet bullet puller mounted in Rockchucker. You never out grow a quality single stage. This pic is the start of a 1k batch of 223, loading primer tubes before starting. |
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Maybe a month ago I was in your position. Picked up the rcbs master reloader kit, bought a pound of varget dies and loadin components while I waited for the press to ship and now I'm a happy man. I reload for accuracy, but have no problem running high volume batches if I break out each step into a different reloading session
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Quoted: With the master kit all I need is the ar dies for 223 and a depriming die correct No. Don't get the AR dies, they are a gimmick. Get full length standard dies. Correct full length standard dies #10 shellholder Caliper trimmer Don't need a decapping die, the sizing die decaps. I use a decapping die because I wet tumble my dirty brass. If you don't wet tumble, you are wasting your time decapping before resizing. |
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Quoted: Thanks for all of your help can't wait already have 1500+ brass waiting. Putting the order into the store today Something to consider, your brass needs to be clean and lubed before it goes into a properly adjusted sizing die. Cleaning cases, old school=wipe off grit with a clean rag by hand from the 90's=dry tumbler with walnut media  recent=wet tumble. If you want bling this is it. Unlike dry tumbling the primer pocket and inside of case is "like new" clean.  For lube I suggest, Dillon spray lube or Franklin Arsenal (Midway). Same thing homemade, http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/305174_Case_Lube_for_cheap_bastards.html  You will also need a quality reloading manual, I suggest Lyman 49. (about $20) Read the front section, has a complete "how to reload" section with pics.  Depending on the brass you bought, you will need a tool to remove the primer crimps. If mil or LC once fired, (hope this is what you bought) it will have crimped primers.  I suggest the Hornady reamer with a positive stop. $10 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/253550/hornady-primer-pocket-reamer-cutter-head |
| I pick up nasty brass at the range. I use a decapping die. There is no way if would run it though my resizing die. I decap it. Wash it let it dry. Then size it or whatever it needs at that point . Imop decapping dies have a place. ( any brass picked up at the range is nasty weather it is been there an hour or six months) |
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Quoted: I have been shooting 223 pmc bronze so I have that brass I have on hand. As for cleaning I have a tumbler I was going to wet tumble with stainless steel pins. Some of that brass has crimped primer pockets, some doesn't. So you will have to determine what you have. |
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Besides the previously mentioned tumbler (wet variety like the Frankford Arsenal Rotary Tumbler or the dry vibratory type), about the only other things I see missing are some check weights for the scale and a case gauge for whatever caliber you are reloading.
Whoops! On my third look through at the RCBS master reloading kit, I am not seeing a means to trim rifle brass. For brass trimming, I'd recommend getting the Possum Hollow Cutter and its tool holder if you already have some sort of drill (corded or cordless, doesn't matter). And since you have to spend all that time and energy trimming each piece of brass by hand, I'd highly recommend getting the RCBS X-sizer die for .223. Its decapping rod assembly has a specially shaped mandrel which keeps the brass from growing. I think if you trim to 20 thousandths less than the max length, which should be 1.76 for .223 brass, so trim to 1.74", then resizing with the X-sizer die with the mandrel screwed down keeps the brass from growing. That way you do NOT have to trim every time. There is one gadget that would be handy too. The Hornady case comparator: 
Which measures how far back you're bumping the shoulders when you resize the brass. |
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