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5/12/2016 10:36:21 AM EDT
I placed an order for W231 - Two, eight pounds.......well I got an email last week my order was ready to ship from midsouth.     Totally forgot about that.  

I said, yeah, send it.   I'm ready for the next crisis.
5/12/2016 10:53:06 AM EDT
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I placed an order for W231 - Two, eight pounds.......well I got an email last week my order was ready to ship from midsouth.     Totally forgot about that.  

I said, yeah, send it.   I'm ready for the next crisis.
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When?  What was the wait time?  What was the price?
5/12/2016 11:00:39 AM EDT
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when I ordered, around Nov of 2013,  it was around 124 for 8 pounds.  Now, it looks to be 140.

wait time.  over 2 years.
5/12/2016 11:07:17 AM EDT
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Been so long since I've seen that stuff, I thought they quit making it.
5/12/2016 11:20:02 AM EDT
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They did for a while.    When I Spoke to Hodgdon/winchester, they informed me of that.
5/12/2016 11:32:32 AM EDT
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Unless Midsouth has a different corp name, they are not Hodgdon "Top Gun Distributors" so they have to buy from vendors/distributors which means they wait in line compared to PV and Grafs.. (unless their status has changed - I have a 2013 list).

I have been fighting Brownells since Jan 2013 to fill my Varget order. They are not distributors. In Dec/Jan of 2013, Brownells had a monthly special on Varget.. $149 for 8lbs. Per their policy, they are obligated to honor that price. Problem is the Vendors wont sell it to them cheap enough. Since Brownells said they will not cancel backorders in 2013, they are instead just waiting out my death...

Brownells has not fulfilled a Varget order since Dec 2012. They never will so if you have an order, be warned.
5/12/2016 11:59:26 AM EDT
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In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.

You must not be looking very hard, or online.

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5/12/2016 12:46:22 PM EDT
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Gamaliel Shooting Supply has 8# of W231 as of 1140 CST today.


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In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.

You must not be looking very hard, or online.

~g
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Been so long since I've seen that stuff, I thought they quit making it.


In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.

You must not be looking very hard, or online.

~g

5/12/2016 12:50:59 PM EDT
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I guess they are putting it out now.   Get some while you can.   I was told they shut down production of this powder because it's more expensive to make and other powders where cheaper.   Not sure the validity of that.
5/12/2016 5:34:54 PM EDT
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In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.



You must not be looking very hard, or online.



~g

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Been so long since I've seen that stuff, I thought they quit making it.




In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.



You must not be looking very hard, or online.



~g

Last PV I ordered was a few months ago and they didn't have it in stock at that time.  Nobody has it in my AO.



 
5/13/2016 7:45:57 AM EDT
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Unless Midsouth has a different corp name, they are not Hodgdon "Top Gun Distributors" so they have to buy from vendors/distributors which means they wait in line compared to PV and Grafs.. (unless their status has changed - I have a 2013 list).

I have been fighting Brownells since Jan 2013 to fill my Varget order. They are not distributors. In Dec/Jan of 2013, Brownells had a monthly special on Varget.. $149 for 8lbs. Per their policy, they are obligated to honor that price. Problem is the Vendors wont sell it to them cheap enough. Since Brownells said they will not cancel backorders in 2013, they are instead just waiting out my death...

Brownells has not fulfilled a Varget order since Dec 2012. They never will so if you have an order, be warned.
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Did they take your money in Jan 2013? If not, move on.
5/13/2016 8:01:27 AM EDT
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Did they take your money in Jan 2013? If not, move on.
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Unless Midsouth has a different corp name, they are not Hodgdon "Top Gun Distributors" so they have to buy from vendors/distributors which means they wait in line compared to PV and Grafs.. (unless their status has changed - I have a 2013 list).

I have been fighting Brownells since Jan 2013 to fill my Varget order. They are not distributors. In Dec/Jan of 2013, Brownells had a monthly special on Varget.. $149 for 8lbs. Per their policy, they are obligated to honor that price. Problem is the Vendors wont sell it to them cheap enough. Since Brownells said they will not cancel backorders in 2013, they are instead just waiting out my death...

Brownells has not fulfilled a Varget order since Dec 2012. They never will so if you have an order, be warned.


Did they take your money in Jan 2013? If not, move on.


I just dont like to be lied to. They say they cant get Varget yet it has been available everywhere. They could obviously get it. They just dont want to take the loss.

Dont get me wrong, I am not home waiting on it. I have plenty. I just think it a bit comical and disappointing.
5/13/2016 11:15:57 AM EDT
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Last PV I ordered was a few months ago and they didn't have it in stock at that time.  Nobody has it in my AO.
 
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Been so long since I've seen that stuff, I thought they quit making it.


In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.

You must not be looking very hard, or online.

~g
Last PV I ordered was a few months ago and they didn't have it in stock at that time.  Nobody has it in my AO.
 


Yeah it surely not in stock all the time and everywhere (that ship set sail in 2012)

Oddly Winchester powders have been a little more difficult to find then the Hodgdon equivalent.

I'd agree with others, grab what you can now.... while I'm glad to see things loosening up a little.... I'd guess this will be short lived.

I'm stocked well with 4/8lb kegs of my preferred powders (possibly more than I'll use in my lifetime), as well as a nice selection of 1lb kegs that could be sold off or leveraged for trade (stuff that I might not normally use).

~g
5/13/2016 5:02:45 PM EDT
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Yeah it surely not in stock all the time and everywhere (that ship set sail in 2012)





Oddly Winchester powders have been a little more difficult to find then the Hodgdon equivalent.





I'd agree with others, grab what you can now.... while I'm glad to see things loosening up a little.... I'd guess this will be short lived.





I'm stocked well with 4/8lb kegs of my preferred powders (possibly more than I'll use in my lifetime), as well as a nice selection of 1lb kegs that could be sold off or leveraged for trade (stuff that I might not normally use).





~g


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Been so long since I've seen that stuff, I thought they quit making it.






In stock at powder valley now (4#), and has been available as HP38 for some time.





You must not be looking very hard, or online.





~g


Last PV I ordered was a few months ago and they didn't have it in stock at that time.  Nobody has it in my AO.


 






Yeah it surely not in stock all the time and everywhere (that ship set sail in 2012)





Oddly Winchester powders have been a little more difficult to find then the Hodgdon equivalent.





I'd agree with others, grab what you can now.... while I'm glad to see things loosening up a little.... I'd guess this will be short lived.





I'm stocked well with 4/8lb kegs of my preferred powders (possibly more than I'll use in my lifetime), as well as a nice selection of 1lb kegs that could be sold off or leveraged for trade (stuff that I might not normally use).





~g




I started reloading 6 months before sandy hook.  At that time I was told (wisely) not to stock up till I knew what I really wanted. I did go agaist the grain and bought 8 pounds of AA2230 locally. I also bought a pound of Win231.... Then Blammo, everything disappeared. I shoot and reload a lot of pistol, so I searched for alternatives, like Longshot, because it was around my area, Then I found some bullseye. I was travelling and found a 8 pounder of TiteGroup about 18 months ago for a killer price. ( I don't think the mom n pop store knew what was up in the rest of the world)  Then I bought 4 pounds of CFE Pistol locally and 8 pounds of Win 296 and 748.





Im set for a while.




 




 
5/13/2016 7:55:41 PM EDT
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I just dont like to be lied to. They say they cant get Varget yet it has been available everywhere. They could obviously get it. They just dont want to take the loss.

Dont get me wrong, I am not home waiting on it. I have plenty. I just think it a bit comical and disappointing.
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Unless Midsouth has a different corp name, they are not Hodgdon "Top Gun Distributors" so they have to buy from vendors/distributors which means they wait in line compared to PV and Grafs.. (unless their status has changed - I have a 2013 list).

I have been fighting Brownells since Jan 2013 to fill my Varget order. They are not distributors. In Dec/Jan of 2013, Brownells had a monthly special on Varget.. $149 for 8lbs. Per their policy, they are obligated to honor that price. Problem is the Vendors wont sell it to them cheap enough. Since Brownells said they will not cancel backorders in 2013, they are instead just waiting out my death...

Brownells has not fulfilled a Varget order since Dec 2012. They never will so if you have an order, be warned.


Did they take your money in Jan 2013? If not, move on.


I just dont like to be lied to. They say they cant get Varget yet it has been available everywhere. They could obviously get it. They just dont want to take the loss.

Dont get me wrong, I am not home waiting on it. I have plenty. I just think it a bit comical and disappointing.


No doubt, I'm sure it is the reason you stated and they'd have to take a big hit. I had a backorder from Midsouth standing for a couple years, and they fulfilled it at original price like the OP.
5/13/2016 11:55:14 PM EDT
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I only started reloading a few years ago so I never actually saw 231 in the wild until recently.

I always thought it was made up
5/13/2016 11:57:56 PM EDT
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I just dont like to be lied to. They say they cant get Varget yet it has been available everywhere. They could obviously get it. They just dont want to take the loss.

Dont get me wrong, I am not home waiting on it. I have plenty. I just think it a bit comical and disappointing.
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Unless Midsouth has a different corp name, they are not Hodgdon "Top Gun Distributors" so they have to buy from vendors/distributors which means they wait in line compared to PV and Grafs.. (unless their status has changed - I have a 2013 list).

I have been fighting Brownells since Jan 2013 to fill my Varget order. They are not distributors. In Dec/Jan of 2013, Brownells had a monthly special on Varget.. $149 for 8lbs. Per their policy, they are obligated to honor that price. Problem is the Vendors wont sell it to them cheap enough. Since Brownells said they will not cancel backorders in 2013, they are instead just waiting out my death...

Brownells has not fulfilled a Varget order since Dec 2012. They never will so if you have an order, be warned.


Did they take your money in Jan 2013? If not, move on.


I just dont like to be lied to. They say they cant get Varget yet it has been available everywhere. They could obviously get it. They just dont want to take the loss.

Dont get me wrong, I am not home waiting on it. I have plenty. I just think it a bit comical and disappointing.


I can get it local at that price. What's it cost where you are?

Eta: nevermind.... math is hard. Yeah that's cheap
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